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« on: January 24, 2007, 01:33 PM »

Hello there - I'm a newbie here and new to drumming. I have band practice this evening and a show tomorrow evening, and was wondering if it would be okay to store my drums in my car for a day or so. My neighbor is also a drummer and I notice she usually has hers in her Jeep, so it seems like it'd be okay, but I just wanted to make sure that the temperature won't mess them up too badly. It's going to be in the low 20s-low 30s Farenheit.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2007, 01:47 PM »

If you're not storing your kit in a temperature controlled environment (like a garage or heated carport), it's like storing them inside your freezer. Wood doesn't respond well to that kind of environment.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2007, 01:48 PM »

Are your drums in cases?  The problem with leaving the drums in a cold temperature is taking them inside to play.  The cold drums will cause condensation to form when you bring then into a warm room.  If you have cases get there early and allow them to warm in the cases a while before setting up your kit.  The summertime is a different story as the high temps can cause the wrap to bubble in places.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2007, 01:55 PM »

No, they're not in cases. I mean, they really aren't the greatest drums ever, so I'm not too worried if they do get kinda messed up, but I don't know the firs thing about "tuning" them or whatever.

I read this thread and gathered that it wouldn't be all that big of a deal, but maybe that's just in the instance of moving them quickly from the cold to warm, not storing them in the cold for 24 hours or so.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2007, 01:59 PM »

For several years my drums lived in my equipment trailer in the winter.  I never had a problem storing them in the cold in an uninsulated trailer.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 02:04 PM »

I have my drums (Pearl Session Maple) in the back of our band van all the time... They're in cases, but they basically live back there year round...  I haven't noticed any problems -- I do usually let them warm up to room temp in the winter months before setting up for the gig.

I worry about them more in the summer months when they're baking in the heat -- if it's going to be really scorching, I'll sometimes bring them in the house...

That being said, I haven't had any problems  - I usually do a quick tune-up of the heads before every gig and they've never been grossly out of tune.   

I think you'll be OK for a day or two -- worry more about someone breaking into your car!!!

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 02:06 PM »

For several years my drums lived in my equipment trailer in the winter.  I never had a problem storing them in the cold in an uninsulated trailer.

I suspect cold weather is not as potentially damaging as searing heat ... something which is a much greater problem where I live.  Lips Sealed The heat generated by leaving your car on black asphalt on a 110-degree day can more than double inside your car with the windows closed. If you ever wanted to see your drum shells expand beyond the capacity of your rims ...

However, one of my friends from Northern California has a snare drum shell that buffaloed on him when he left in his car one night in a hotel parking lot in Reno in winter two Februarys ago. The only thing we could conclude is it was temperature related, but I guess it could also have had some unknown structural defect that was exacerbated by an extreme drop in pressure (especially quick moving low pressure systems at high elevations).
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2007, 02:09 PM »

A decently made drum should be able to withstand those temperatures. My stuff lived in band trucks for years, and was subjected to major extremes in temperature with no apparent problems, as our travels took us from Canada to Florida and everywhere in between. I wouldn't leave priceless vintage gear out in the cold (or heat), but average drums should be fine.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2007, 02:09 PM »

Thanks all! We should get to the venue early enough to let them get back to room temp., so hopefully they will sound okay. And frankly, with my drumming skills, the drums themselves should be the least of my worries.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2007, 02:10 PM »

A decently made drum should be able to withstand those temperatures. My stuff lived in band trucks for years, and was subjected to major extremes in temperature with no apparent problems, as our travels took us from Canada to Florida and everywhere in between. I wouldn't leave priceless vintage gear out in the cold (or heat), but average drums should be fine.

Yeah - I'd definitely be more cautious with VG...I am sure my bandmate won't do the same with his stuff, but I figure my lousy drums will be fine.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2007, 07:03 PM »

from my personal experience - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the heat in the car cracked the wrap on my drums. I had the drums for 20 years, but one day i leave the drums over night and part of the next day and the wrap cracked big time.

IMO, i'd take them out of direct sunlight if at all possible.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2007, 09:18 PM »

Is it fine to leave my drums in the garage where it probably gets to around 50F each night? I'm gonna assume yes but it seems my drums are always out of tune for no real reason...
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2007, 09:53 PM »

Is it fine to leave my drums in the garage where it probably gets to around 50F each night? I'm gonna assume yes but it seems my drums are always out of tune for no real reason...

Temperature changes + moisture = expansion and contraction. That's going to affect tuning every time, but you're probably going to experience that, anyway, if you gig enough.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2007, 11:48 PM »

I know of 2 drummers who have had their kits stolen from cars or vans. Another problem you might consider.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 09:08 AM »

I know of 2 drummers who have had their kits stolen from cars or vans. Another problem you might consider.

This is why you should have insurance on your equipment.  If you are not playing for pay your homeowners should cover any loss but if you are getting paid you will need professional insurance which cost little compared to the loss you may incur. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 10:31 AM »

Or you could just not leave it in the car. Insurance is a wonderful thing, but I would rather HAVE my bass than REPLACE my bass.

Leaving stuff in the car is a real good way to have your stuff become Someone Else's stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 11:41 AM »

from my personal experience - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the heat in the car cracked the wrap on my drums. I had the drums for 20 years, but one day i leave the drums over night and part of the next day and the wrap cracked big time.

IMO, i'd take them out of direct sunlight if at all possible.
A car left in the sun with the windows rolled up can get upto 180 degrees.  This is pretty hot and
will cause some expansion.  I have left gear many times in a trailer and not had any problems. If I thought it could get that hot, I wouldn't leave them in there. Same with extreme cold. 
Just park in the shade and crack the window's may be OK if it is parked in a safe place.  I do agree that theft could become an issue.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 11:46 AM »

I've been leaving my drums in my unheated, uncooled garage for the last five years.  They're in bags and sitting on shelves.  I've had no problems with tuning, wraps, or roundness of shells.

Schedule problems have also required me to leave them in the back of the minivan for fairly extended periods recently.  The windows around the drums are heavily tinted, but temps get pretty high.  It's Dallas, after all.  Again, I'm not seeing any problems.

In my younger days, while playing on the road a lot, my drums stayed in metal storage buildings when not traveling, and in the back of a box truck for days at a time on the road.  That involved a temperature range of -10 F to +110 F (outside.  I'm sure it was much hotter inside the truck).  Those drums were as round 25 years later when I sold them as the day I bought them, and the lacquer finish also held up well.

Fear of theft is possibly well founded, and leaving uncased drums in full sunlight would also be a bad idea, but otherwise your drums should survive a few days in the car just fine.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 01:28 PM »

In cold temps and out of direct sunlight, they'll be fine environmentally. If the van has a lot of windows, throw a blanket over them. UV light can and will discolor finishes, especially wraps, even in the winter. The blanket helps hide them, too.

I kept my drums (also Pearl Sessions like another replier) in cases in the band trailer year round and had no probs with them for about 5 years. Now I'm using a smaller trailer and bagging my current set which rides in the SUV. They do NOT stay in their except for overnight after a long drive home. Then they get removed as early as possible the next day to avoid the heat issue in the summer.

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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2007, 10:18 PM »

Not a good idea in either extreme. Cold causes contraction, heat expansion. Different materials expand and contract at different rates. I would be worried about the drum wrap and the multi ply shells the glue can become soft or hard and can move faster or slower than the other matrials it is in contact with. If I am hauling my gear, I always pull the drums and take them inside and leave the cymbals and hardware in the vehicle until morning.

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