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Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 19, 2005, 10:28 PM for all y'all who wanted a clearer clip of Bonzo playing fool in the rain, your day has come... 8)
Clip (http://home.earthlink.net/~jokerny1/foolishclip.mp3) Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 19, 2005, 11:13 PM I cant get the clip to work....where did you find this so I can try to get a look. This is one of the toughest grooves to do correctly-at least for me. One of my Bonham favs!
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Joe on January 20, 2005, 02:06 AM All I got was an 8 KB snippet of a British-accented voice saying "One" with a slight clip on the end.
Thanks for the thought of sharing, nonetheless. Is something temporarily broken? Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: ritarocks on January 20, 2005, 09:26 AM All I got was an 8 KB snippet of a British-accented voice saying "One" with a slight clip on the end. Thanks for the thought of sharing, nonetheless. ditto. <darn, I was excited!!! Hurry! Get it up there! > ;D Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Jon E on January 20, 2005, 06:07 PM Yeah. AOL media player indicates that it is a 1 second clip.
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 20, 2005, 08:17 PM daggit,
sorry guys. when i get home, i'll fix it in a jiffy. my bad on the teasing. ;) Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: ritarocks on January 20, 2005, 09:08 PM daggit, sorry guys. when i get home, i'll fix it in a jiffy. my bad on the teasing. ;) are you home yet? ;D Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Ranman on January 20, 2005, 09:28 PM Sounds like a job for "Notify". 8)
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: groovin on January 21, 2005, 12:00 AM Just go buy Jeff Porcaros video(if they still sell it that is)He breaks down the Rosanna groove,its a hybrid of the Bohnam "Fool in the rain" groove and Bernard Purdie's" Babalon sister "groove...It should give you a good idea of how to play this groove...I think the only thing he changed is the bass drum part>>>
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 21, 2005, 12:33 AM are you home yet? ;D hehe, yup, got hom a few minutes ago. fixed it! Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Snowdogyyz on January 21, 2005, 05:49 AM Just go buy Jeff Porcaros video(if they still sell it that is)He breaks down the Rosanna groove,its a hybrid of the Bohnam "Fool in the rain" groove and Bernard Purdie's" Babalon sister "groove...It should give you a good idea of how to play this groove...I think the only thing he changed is the bass drum part>>> Yep. He combined those 2 beats with the Bo Diddley back beat and wham! Rosanna. Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: KevinD on January 21, 2005, 08:05 AM That is one of my favorite tracks and hearing it isolated and under the microscope it certainly holds up.
I was wondering if they would do the Latin part. A few things stand out: He definitely had that freight train sound, his playing is extremely even, articulate and balanced, and the track grooves like hell. Aside from the nice big drum sound and room acoustics, the sound he is getting from the drums themselves is really nice. I would imagine he'd get the same type of sound from just about any kit he sat down at. While there are others out there, this track is a great example where John Bonham shows he was much more than his "basher" reputation would have most people believe. Are we sure this was an out take? Sounds pretty good to me. Thank you for posting this Joker, where did you get this one? If you have anymore please post! Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: ritarocks on January 21, 2005, 08:40 AM Thanks for posting that joker. :)
The distortion I'm hearing--must be my computer? Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: bonejoyII on January 21, 2005, 08:50 AM OMG.......
THAT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: equipmentdork on January 21, 2005, 11:49 AM Thanks is not enough! Does sound like the take they used for release, though.....GREAT room sound.
Dan Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Snowdogyyz on January 21, 2005, 11:50 AM Try this one out:
http://www.disndat.info/bonham/ Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: equipmentdork on January 21, 2005, 12:09 PM Wow! Is this from a boot CD? They seem to all be from IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR. Fun playing "name that tune" with just drum tracks. I guessed "Carouselambra" for track 2.....
Dan Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 21, 2005, 12:43 PM OMG! Just when I thought I had exhausted my quest for lost gems of Bonhams drumming, THIS COMES ALONG!!!! Yeah, they are In Through The Outdoor outtakes, and some fine stuff from Coda too. What I really dig is hearing little grunts and groans as he plays-obviously under headphones. The 1st 2 clips are of stuff I dont recognize. Maybe its just a little warm-up routine he liked to do. The room accoustics are excellent-you can really enjoy the wide open sound of the kit hes on. My guess is hes on the green sparkle kit that he favored in the studio. As far as crashes go, I def. hear all 2002s, 18",20", and most likely an 18" med. ride that he used as a crash is clearly evident to me. And no mistaking the 24" ride. I would really like to know the source of these archives. Some of them are note for note that you hear on the albums, so I would bet they are just raw drum tracks, to be used on the albums. Im blown away-I gotta go hit the kit man-
AWESOME SNOWDOGYYZ!!!! Thank you very very much indeed- Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 21, 2005, 12:49 PM The fool in the rain cant possibly be an outtake! Thats whats on the album. These are most likely the drum tracks that were actually used. But still a treat indeed to hear them in their raw form. I want MORE!!!!!
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 21, 2005, 04:16 PM i was gonna put up the original link where i got it from, but then thought, "man, that would REALLY tax his server." so put it up on my own. :P but i guess its ok. besides this was the best of 'em all, IMHO.
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 21, 2005, 07:13 PM i was gonna put up the original link where i got it from, but then thought, "man, that would REALLY tax his server." so put it up on my own. :P but i guess its ok. besides this was the best of 'em all, IMHO. I agree-fool in the rain was some of his tightest work he ever did-IMHO. Hey man, thanks for turning us on jokerjknyTitle: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Joe on January 21, 2005, 07:32 PM I've yet to sample the other tracks, but I must echo KevinD's assessment of Bonham's even and balanced sound; it's the first thing I noticed, with the obscenely large bass drum sound and the nice punch of his snare being second and third, respectively. And, the fidelity is amazing. He was truly a great musician.
Thanks for sharing, Joker! Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Louderdb on January 21, 2005, 09:18 PM I'm really digging the vocalization while he played! The grunts, groans and grimaces were part of the package! He was a truly awesome drummer that put EVERYTHING he had into what he played. I dug him then, and miss him now! ;)
Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 21, 2005, 09:47 PM I'm really digging the vocalization while he played! The grunts, groans and grimaces were part of the package! He was a truly awesome drummer that put EVERYTHING he had into what he played. I dug him then, and miss him now! ;) Completely. He was then, and is now simply put-lights out. Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: DaveGink on January 21, 2005, 10:15 PM Always loved Bonham! This is great!!
And I agree with everything that's already been said. Sound, time, feel... In addition, his left foot independance on the hi-hat really stood out to me on that track. But that's something I'm horrible at which makes it all the better to me. Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 21, 2005, 10:57 PM I'm really digging the vocalization while he played! The grunts, groans and grimaces were part of the package! He was a truly awesome drummer that put EVERYTHING he had into what he played. I dug him then, and miss him now! ;) funny, but there were alot of "inappropriate" grunts i had to edit out of the beginning. ;) Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 21, 2005, 11:28 PM Yeah, we've heard the stories. They're goood-
Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Joe on January 21, 2005, 11:38 PM I've listened a bit more closely, and I think that Track 22 is not only the track to be used on the album, but that it is an isolation of the final take—I hear Plant's voice leaking in at times.
Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: ritarocks on January 22, 2005, 12:23 PM Hey you guys. Sorry to hijack, but I saw this and had to post it. Is that baby outfit awesome or what!? 8)
(http://s7ondemand1.scene7.com/is/image/HotTopic/276509_hi?wid=199) Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Jon E on January 23, 2005, 05:50 AM OUT-TAKE????!!!
I wish MY out-takes sounded that bad!! Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Christopher on January 23, 2005, 05:21 PM Try this one out: http://www.disndat.info/bonham/ Incredible! Thanks for posting that! Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: ProudArmenian on January 23, 2005, 11:08 PM This is great thanks for clip...
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: oxford on January 24, 2005, 01:41 AM i want to make that into my doorbell ringer -- my wife might think otherwise
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: felix on January 24, 2005, 02:10 AM His drums really have a nice slap sound to them. There has got to be a compressor somewhere in line.
Great clip jkr- thanks. Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Nubert Thump on January 24, 2005, 07:21 AM Try this one out: http://www.disndat.info/bonham/ These tracks are fantastic. I have long strived for a relese of Bonham tracks w/o the rest of LZ as a source for drummers. I envisioned the project to be named 'Bare Bonham.' My efforts to get Jimmy Page or Eddie Krammer to do anything with this idea has been futile so far. These tracks are the closest to what I have envisioned. Thae last two are 'Fool in the Rain' up through the bridge. It is interesting to hear how Bonzo played it before all the percussion overdubs. Please note: it sounds to me that these tracks have encoded noise reduction(Dolby or DBX?) and have note been decoded for these tracks captured on this website. That would account for the overactive comprssion sound(its kind of like a background swooshing sound). I believe that played back through the proper noise reduction decoding these tracks would sound even better! Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 24, 2005, 07:53 AM These tracks are fantastic. I have long strived for a relese of Bonham tracks w/o the rest of LZ as a source for drummers. I envisioned the project to be named 'Bare Bonham.' My efforts to get Jimmy Page or Eddie Krammer to do anything with this idea has been futile so far. These tracks are the closest to what I have envisioned. I bet you are right........Thae last two are 'Fool in the Rain' up through the bridge. It is interesting to hear how Bonzo played it before all the percussion overdubs. Please note: it sounds to me that these tracks have encoded noise reduction(Dolby or DBX?) and have note been decoded for these tracks captured on this website. That would account for the overactive comprssion sound(its kind of like a background swooshing sound). I believe that played back through the proper noise reduction decoding these tracks would sound even better! Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: moosetication on January 24, 2005, 08:22 AM Hah! A 20-second extract from the beginning of that clip has now been installed as my ringtone. It's already scared the manure out of two people. 8)
Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 24, 2005, 11:32 AM lol,
how do you do that? i really need to upgrade my 3 yrs. phone sometime. Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: jokerjkny on January 24, 2005, 11:34 AM These tracks are fantastic. I have long strived for a relese of Bonham tracks w/o the rest of LZ as a source for drummers. I envisioned the project to be named 'Bare Bonham.' My efforts to get Jimmy Page or Eddie Krammer to do anything with this idea has been futile so far. These tracks are the closest to what I have envisioned. Thae last two are 'Fool in the Rain' up through the bridge. It is interesting to hear how Bonzo played it before all the percussion overdubs. Please note: it sounds to me that these tracks have encoded noise reduction(Dolby or DBX?) and have note been decoded for these tracks captured on this website. That would account for the overactive comprssion sound(its kind of like a background swooshing sound). I believe that played back through the proper noise reduction decoding these tracks would sound even better! Nube, dunno if it'd help anything, but i'll try running the clip thru Goldwave and see if its noise reduction does anything. Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: moosetication on January 24, 2005, 11:40 AM how do you do that? My Nokia phone (6230) can use MP3s for ringtones. I just transfer them over IR from my laptop, using the Nokia software supplied. Title: Re:Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: Vintage Ludwig on January 24, 2005, 12:05 PM Check out the intro to trk 22......Bonzo f-ing up, and vocalizes it. You can hear Plant in the control room yelling "whats goin on". But true to form, Bonzo gets the count right and just goes-cool, he could count to 4....
Its little treats like these that give us some insight into the world of Zep. Title: Bonham's "Fool in the Rain" Outtake!!! Post by: bonejoyII on January 24, 2005, 02:29 PM Hey you guys. Sorry to hijack, but I saw this and had to post it. Is that baby outfit awesome or what!? 8) (http://s7ondemand1.scene7.com/is/image/HotTopic/276509_hi?wid=199) Isn't this the next prodigal drummer? Apparently his chops are 'AWESOME''! Hey Xena.....you're not promoting this kid are you??? ;D |
