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i was listening to that joe henderson tune 'short story' this morning and noticed a little flub just after the drum solo. the rest of the band doesn't really come in together, but it still sounds really cool. this is also the case in the tw lifetime tune 'fred.' the band totally drops out before coming back in. it's kinda funny. there's a black sabbath album where a lot of this goes on, too, though i'm sure that was caused by outside forces. ;D

i love these kinds of recording glitches, though. it makes the performance human.

have you spotted any flubs that you like?

I'll cite these while saying that I think they are errors; they might not be.

Two from Aja:  Jim Keltner misses a rimshot at 1:54 on "Josie", causing a big "CLICK!".  The intro of "Home At Last" features an audibly-depressed pedal that can be heard during the vamp on the piano; whether it's the damper or the sostenuto pedal I've no idea.

Second verse, same as the first: Jim Keltner misses another rimshot on the second backbeat of Randy Neuman's "Short People".  This one sounds more like a "PLOCK!"; sounds good.

A slip on the Electric Banana:  A drumstick can be heard to fall, presumably off what I think to be Hal Blaine's bass drum, during the opening bars of "Mellow Yellow".

Make up your damned mind!: In the Jackson Five's hit "Never Can Say Goodbye", Michael may be heard singing "Never can stay goodbye" in the opening verse.  

It's always sounded to me like Charlie Watts flubs about three times during "Respectable", either getting off timing or missing a downbeat, but it's perfect for the song -- makes it sound a little out of control.

Not drum related, but I heard a story about a vocal mishap regarding Warron Zevon's Werewolves of London. It's that quick yelp right after the line "His hair was perfect" . I heard that was caused by some sort of accident where he hurt his finger or something to that effect, they just left it in.

I also heard that on the Radiohead song "Creep", that cool guitar intro (the chukka...chukka....chukka) before the chorus kicks in was an accident, it sounded cool so he did it before every chorus. To me, it makes the whole song.

These are all things I had just heard and have no proof of their authenticity.

The bass player comes in a full count early coming out of the dueling guitar break in the Allman Brothers "One Way Out" off of the "Eat a Peach" album.  Fun to hear 2 drummers scramble to follow the bass player.

You can hear what sounds like the snares being snapped "on" in the first couple of bars of "Sunshine of Your Love".

The singer comes in several bars early before the second verse begins in the Kingsmen's "Louie Louie".

The tambourine in the Rolling Stones' version of "Time is on my side" is unbelievably out of rhythm with the drums.  It's part of the song for me.

Led Zeppelin "All of My Love"......not sure what album...Bonhams squeaky Ludwig Speed King can be heard almost thru the entire song..........squeak,squeak squeak,etc

Goodness-gracious, there are SO MANY tunes with a squeaky Speed King, but they almost always add beneficial ambiance to the piece, IMHO.  

On the Mamas and the Papas "I saw her again last night" Denny Doherty comes in (singing) a bar or two early on the last chorus. " He sings " I saw her" then stops and waits until he comes in again where he was supposed to.  

in the studio they thought it sounded cool so they left it in.

I heard it the radio yesterday, it sounds kind of cool, listen for it next time it pops up somewhere.

There's the stick drop at the end of Alice Cooper's "Be My Lover".  In interviews, Neal Smith claims that he was spinning his sticks when he dropped it, but I've listened to that song MANY times, and I don't think he had time to twirl a stick ::) :)

Paul Simon's "Born At The Right Time" tour (concert in Central Park) video (which I just put back in the VCR the other day, but that's another story...boy, do I miss Richard Tee...)

Anyway...in the song, "Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes," the band drops out (drums/percussion keep the groove going) while Paul introduces the backup singers.  When he counts the band back in, Paul drops a beat (or adds a beat, I can't remember which), so "one" is no longer "one."  Doesn't phase Gadd and company in the least - they just keep going, displaced downbeat be damned, and the groove remains rock solid throughout the rest of the song.

LOL....are you serious tho? There's other tunes? Or am I just "biting" on some "bait"? I can't think of any other tunes.

I've been had again......

  There's a Police song where SC goes to double-time for the choruses and regular time for the verses. At the start of the 3rd verse he plays two-beats of double time AND THEN goes back to his regular beat. I've always wondered if he meant to do it or not. I'll try to think of the song and then post it.

Blackdog....Zep. You can hear stick noise all through it. Sometimes,it's a cue at the end of Plant's lyrics when there's no music, to bring them back in....sometimes it sounds like he's just....playing with them...putting both sticks in one hand,etc. Did'nt seem to bother anybody,they left it like that.

I took Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire in the Trailblazer today....I think that was done with all "one takes".... I'm sure there's a place in the title song where Billy Cobham drops a stick,keeps double bass going,and comes back in with a crash. Really don't notice,I've listened to this off and on over 30 years..just lately I think I realized that's what happened. The whole recording is like that, Inner Mounting Flame,same way. All one takes.

With the complexity and intensity of each of the parts played on that recording, it would be darn near impossible to do a clean "punch" anyway.  No hijack meant, but I saw Mahavishnu Orchestra back in '72 and the audience was literally "breathless" for about 10 seconds after each song ended.  Then the applause started....

The first time I saw them I was in high school,must have been '70 or '71...my guitar playing buddy said.."you gotta hear these guys"...he was into jazz while the rest of us were still listening to Hendrix,Cream,Who,etc. So,we went to the University of Cincinnati to see... Inner Mounting Flame was just released..Cobham was playing a 5pc set of natural maple Ludwigs with a single pedal. First time I saw a China. Small audience, was free,nobody knew..theystarted with the Inner Mounting Flame song...I was'nt even sure what was going on.....I was amazed. Was'nt sure it was "music",I did'nt have a reference point  to "hear"..I'd never seen music played with that much intensity. That was my introduction to fusion/whatever. I was hooked.
Next time I saw them after the release of Birds of Fire in a small venue in Cinci...Cobham had a double bass set of clear Fibes. When McLaughlin started the 12 string intro to Birds of Fire,he mis-picked the piece and had to start again...some jerk(could'nt have been more than 200 people) said..."C'mon man..." John had a look on his face like he had been stabbed thru the heart. He's a really strange fellow,anyway..but they went on to play the whole album. Truly amazing and changed my view of music. I think you could call that a ...milestone for me.      BTW,mud,this post is not a "topper" to yours. I hope you don't take it that way.

   I remember the lyrics from the chorus! Or at least one phrase.

   They repeat "So Lonely" over & over. What's the song called?

I think "So Lonely" was also the name of the tune.

  Excellent. Danke

There's the classic ending of Metallica's Master Of Puppets guitar solo, where Kirk Hammet gets his string caught underneath a fret, making a squeal. They decided it sounded cool, and kept it.

U2's "The Joshua Tree" has a clearly audible bass drum chain noise ony many of the tracks.

Nicko misses a backbeat near the end of "Infinite Dreams" on the Seventh Son album, by Iron Maiden.