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Title: 6/8 Grooves Post by: Mardy Bum on July 08, 2006, 06:44 PM If there's 6 beats to a measure and the eighth note gets one beat, how do the triplets line up with the metronome clicking out quarter notes?
I have another question, but regarding times like 7/8 and 5/8. If the eighth note gets one beat, then shouldn't each eighth note your playing on the hi hit land on the click as if it were 5/4 with quarter notes? wow.. my brain's about to explode... Title: Re: 6/8 Grooves Post by: Mister Acrolite on July 08, 2006, 08:07 PM If there's 6 beats to a measure and the eighth note gets one beat, how do the triplets line up with the metronome clicking out quarter notes? I have another question, but regarding times like 7/8 and 5/8. If the eighth not gets one beat, then shouldn't each eighth note your playing on the hi hit land on the click as if it were 5/4 with quarter notes? wow.. my brain's about to explode... With 6/8, most people either count 2 or 3 beats to the measure, which means the metronome click would correspond to either a dotted quarter (2 beats per measure, shown in the first bar of 6/8 below), or a quarter (3 beats to the measure, shown in the second bar). For odd signatures like 5/8 or 7/8, you can either have the metronome click on every eighth note, or on every quarter note, which would mean it would take two bars for the click to cycle back around, as shown below. (http://www.commaboy.com/metronome_options.gif) Title: Re: 6/8 Grooves Post by: Warren Peese on July 08, 2006, 08:29 PM Thanks for asking that question, Mardy, and thank you Mr. A for the graphic explanation. It's one of those things I learned in school (35 years ago), but since I took up the drums again never applied to a metronome setting for practice. Now I will.
Title: Re: 6/8 Grooves Post by: Bart Elliott on July 08, 2006, 08:39 PM Mardy, I know what you meant, but I wanted to caution you about thinking of this like triplets.
Here comes the pedantic percussionist ... It sounds like triplets perhaps, but in 6/8, with an eighth-note playing on each beat so that you have 6 notes per bar (measure), those are not triplets and should not be called as such. As far as the metronome issue, it depends on what you have your metronome set to. If it's clicking quarter-notes when you are in a odd meter such as 5/8, 7/8, 11/8, etc., the click will not land on beat one every other bar (see Mr. A's graphic above). If you have your metronome click the eighth-notes, then the click will be on each pulse throughout the measure. Title: Re: 6/8 Grooves Post by: Mardy Bum on July 09, 2006, 01:14 PM Thank you guys for answering my question very thoroughly.
Title: Re: 6/8 Grooves Post by: Gaddabout on July 11, 2006, 01:19 PM Here comes the pedantic percussionist ... It sounds like triplets perhaps, but in 6/8, with an eighth-note playing on each beat so that you have 6 notes per bar (measure), those are not triplets and should not be called as such. LOL, Bart! I read that first line and felt compelled to make the same comment. Thankfully I read the whole thread first, suspecting someone beat me to it. I don't think your comment was pedantic at all. The mistake is very common and I wish more of us held each other accountable to better reading. Title: Re: 6/8 Grooves Post by: drumnut1 on July 12, 2006, 07:34 AM Thanks You guys for the explanation. I have also had some problems with 6/8 time
doing traditional church music. This is the only place I have had to mess much with this timing. I don't do much reading anymore but What Mr. A has shown make much since to me. Thanks again. Nutty |