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Anybody who know any great cd`s whith great drummers? :-\

Judging by your screen name, you might enjoy these:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b00000106k/ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b00000106k/)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b00000106s/ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b00000106s/)


Heavy music with OUTRAGEOUS drumming.

You can hear some particularly sweet excerpts from these CDs here:

http://www.keithcronin.com/fromhell.html (http://www.keithcronin.com/fromhell.html)

Scroll down the page and look for excerpts from these two CDs featuring the drumming of Deen Castronovo.  Enjoy!

sure, plenty ... do you want just metal? or pop/rock, world beat, trad jazz, out jazz, free improv, avant garde, insert genre here, etc.  and to me great drumming isnt necessarily stand out drumming.  great drumming can be that if your listening, but it has to work with the band/music.

metal:
igor cavallera from sepultura is one of my fav metal drummers.  roots is probably my favorite album of thiers, chaos AD a close second.

another is away (michel langevin) in voivod.  dimension hatross is a great album if youre ok with the singer.  other wise negatron and phobos would be good (different singer, heavier albums)

i kinda hate to say it, but joey jordison from slipknot is awesome, as is thier album iowa.   ive come to really love that album.

let me know if you want more, or more genres.

Hello!
I also like Joey Jordison. Great drummer.
Igor Cavalera to..but i have`nt listen to Voivod. So i think i had to. Thanks

Check out "Inner Mounting Flame" by Mahavishnu Orchestra.  Intense music and drums (provided by Billy Cobham).

funny you should mention mahavishnu.  this friend of mines a turntablist (not a dj, theres a difference) as well as drummer.  at one of his shows he had this cobham intro bit looping with some napalm death riffs pitched down.  together it was easily the heaviest music i had ever heard.  that cobham riff was lethal i wish i could remember which it was.

Yeah, the first two Mahavishnu albums and the first two solo Cobham albums are really good.  Oddly enough, I never liked the sound of his snare drum, but, that's being at least slightly picky.  Lots of natural "bursts" provided by the music, I think mostly penned by John McLaughlin and probably Jan Hammer.

Jeez, what was I thinking?  In addition to the above, for outrageous drums, check out Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Visions of the Emerald Beyond" with Narada Michael Walden on drums.  He is a true "storm".

I`m also searching for great Jazz and World music drummers. I wanna experience all kind of music.

I've been doing my best to evangelize Pat Mastelotto's drumming on the most recent King Crimson album (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004SX3H/qid=1037055331/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-9439074-5697420?v=glance&s=music). Just such an amazing approach.

He also played great with the Rembrandts, and with Mister Mister - tremendous drummer!

Yeah, but Crimson's the kind of band that lets these guys play with almost no restraint. It's like the difference between seeing how a Mustang handles at 45 vs the way it handles at 110.

lessee ...

jazz/fusion - jeff hamilton, elvin jones, rashied ali, art blakey, tony williams, billy cobham, tony oxley, gerry hemmingway, famadou don moye

world - talvin singh, karsh kale, trilok gurtu, zakir hussain (sorry, mostly middle eastern bent, thats my forte)

avant garde - steve reich, harry partch, benedict bonniger

that should keep you busy for a while :)

Mark, since you listen to a pretty diverse kind of music, check out Dillenger Escape Plan, I think some people labeled them math-core once. Its heavy and hard, but drums-wise pretty impressive. Odd timing all over the place.

If you are gonna give it a try, I suggest their latest EP (with Mike Patton on vocals), called "Irony is a Dead Scene"

my favorite of that EP - Rock Paper Scissors

some other DEP stuff:  Weekend Sex Change (instrumental)

and their classic: 43% Burnt
           

carn, thanks for the tip, already a fan :)

and that reminds me of another one for ya metal maniac, MESSHUGAH.  first time i heard those guys i was floored.  like kingslayercrimson.  brutal utter madness.

Hey pdangelo, sounds like you and I have a lot of the early '70's stuff in common, although when it comes to Mahavishnu Orchestra, I prefer "Birds of Fire" over "Inner Mounting Flame". I also really like Waldon on "Visions of the Emerald Beyond" except of those "funky" songs he wrote -- I usually skip them.
Speaking of Narada Michael Waldon (which we were) There is some excellent material both written and played by him on Jeff Beck's "Wired" album -- I especially like "Sophie".
Staying in the WayBack machine, does anyone remember Alphonse Mouson? Give a listen to him on "Back Together Again" with Larry Coryell.

Hey MetalManiac, I suppose it goes without saying that you are familiar with Tool? I just saw them a couple of months ago and Danny is a very impessive drummer. It's not a matter of power or speed, it's those complex patterns that he plays. Listen to "Lateralus" and tell me you can catch (and repeat) all of those patterns the first time! And then offer to sell me a bridge!

Lots of folks at the Cafe mention Joey in Slipknot but the drummer in Fear Factory holds his own in the death metal arena -- I think his name is Raymond Herrera.

funny raymond herrara story (just what i read somewhere) apparently dave lombardo recommended him to the slayer gang when they needed paul replaced.  so they had him out to audition and whatnot.  and afterward they were thinking "hey, hes got the moves, but be worth persuing"  but raymond turned it down because his mother didnt want him playing in a satanic band.  just kinda funny side note there.  

yeah, and Kerry King didnt like his style because herrera is someone who plays more double bass then anything else, following the guitar whenever he can.

But I think his best drumming is on Fear Factory's last album, Digimortal.

Lately I've been listening to Steps Ahead a lot...who might know on which CDs Steve Gadd played? Im interested in those few.

Steve played on:

Smokin' In The Pit - IMHO Steps/Steps Ahead's best album
Step By Step - recorded "in studio" in Japan

Smokin' In The Pit, a live recording in Japan, came out on CD a few years ago, with some bonus tracks not available on the original LP.  Step By Step has been released in the US as part of a two-CD set along with a live recording, "Paradox," which features Peter Erskine on drums.  Both are well worth having.  More info at http://www.nycrecords.com (Mike Mainieri's label).

If you find the first U.S. "Steps Ahead" album on CD, buy it - it's out of print now, which is a crime...

If you like the early Steps recordings, you should also check out the Blue Montreux recordings, with Mike Mainieri, the Brecker Brothers, Warren Bernhardt, Tony Levin, and Steve Jordan.  More great stuff.  The few times I've seen in record stores, it has been stocked under the Brecker Brothers' name (or Randy's bin, or Michael's bin), but if you find it, pick it up - Jordan plays his arse off.

Thanks alot James, Im gonna check if I can get my hands on that Smoking in the Pit cd :)

Good call Pops!  That one will keep him busy (and a little confused for a while).  When I first started playing, a friend turned me on to that one and an album called U.K. (I think the Band had the same name) with Bill Bruford.  Totally different styles but both great music and great drumming.  Later, in about 1980, I saw U.K. live as a warm up for Jethro Tull.  I was disappointed to see that Bruford wasn't behind the kit.  I wasn't disappointed for long, the band introduced their new drummer who I had never heard of - Terry Bossio.

Ratamatatt

Right you are! Mouson does some nifty stuff on DiMeola's "Land of the Midnight Sun", but I think I would have to go with Steve Gadd on "Casino". Gadd can do a special Latin feel that I just don't think is in Mouson's tool kit.

Well folks I was just turned on by a coaster called"Room for Squares" by John Mayer.  My son said that I should give it a listen..........WOW the production was prestine, music was outstanding and fresh to me.  I seldom listen to new work unless it is gennerally Jazz, Funk, Fusion, cool and smooth Jazz.  But this CD was outa site.  Sorta Jazz/ R&B/Country/Blues.... type style if there is such a thing.

I played track #7 a few extra times.  Drums were real clean and precise.  Great vocals and excellent guitar playing.  Production and imagination on the tracks shows.

I have many other favorites in Jazz but this CD was different.  I was impressed.

Jazzman 8)

Return To Forever - Light As A Feather ... Airto Moreira drums/percussion

Herbie Hancock - V.S.O.P. ... Tony Williams live and on fire.

Vinnie Colaiuta, Robben Ford, Jimmy Haslip - Jing Chi ... some heavy stuff from Vinnie.

Irakere - AFROCUBANISMO!  ... the Cuban jazz group that gave us Chucho Valdez, Arturo Sandoval, Paquito d'Rivera, and "Anga" Diaz live.  Some incredible drums and percussion.

Sergio Mendes - Brasileiro ... not the usual fluff of Brasil '66, but some heavy hitting samba and timbalada with the help of Carlinhos Brown.  



 

i agree clive bunker was killer, underrated in my book. i also like "yours is no disgrace" from the yes album, and "roundabout" with that maniacal organ by rick wakeman. also, the song "knife edge" on the first emerson, lake and palmer album. if you want to be beaten senseless, there's "you keep me hangin' on" by carmine appice and vanilla fudge. i bought the old album "harder.....faster" by april wine and it kicks. can anybody tell me if dino danelli from the rascals played with them at one time? i'll get off the oldy trip by mentioning lee michaels, his hammond organ, and his 325 pound drummer named "frosty"...also saw frank zappa in the late "70"s with jean luc ponty, george duke, and ian and ruth underwood. the album "hot rats" is killer. my girlfriend and my sister loved to dance to it. 8)

I'm still going through a Brian Blade fanatical phase. It may never end. :)

1. Brian Blade Fellowship (first solo album)

2. Wayne Shorter - Footprints Live

Band:  Planet X

Drummer:  Virgil Donati.  AKA :  The Thunder From Down Under.

If you haven't heard this guy, then you are missing out.  Especially check out a song called "Dog Boots", in which Virgil plays an inverted double stroke roll  (R L L R   R L L R) through almost the entire song....with his feet.

--adam--

Nice choice Mister_Arcolite. Marty Friedman's an awesome guitarist, probably one of my favorites of all time. Man, that Cacaphony pre-Megadeth stuff is killer.

If you're looking for a Metal CD with killer drumming (beyond just double bass-there is life beyond double bass), I'd recommend these two CD's very strongly. Death-The Sound of Preserverence, and Control Denied-The Fragile Art of Existance. Those two albums are the last recorded works of the late Chuck Shuldiner, and feature the drumwork of Richard Christy, who really lets his insane jazz-influenced chops fly in these two records. Not to be outdone in the double bass department either, Death's cover of the Judas Priest song "Painkiller" features Christy doing Scott Travis' drum solo-only better.

Aside from the Metal genre, I'd strongly recommend (and I'm surprised no one here has yet) getting some of those old Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich videos. Max Weinberg, drummer for Bruce Springsteen's E-Street band, has a very killer "old school" method to drumming and listening to his work is amazing. I don't think he really did anything spectacular with Bruce Springsteen (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but I believe that there are one or two Max Weinberg 7 (his band from Late Night with Conan O'Brian) CD's.

a few bands/drummers to check out:

band: dying fetus
cd: destroy the opposition
drummer: kevin talley

kevin is one of the best death metal drummers i have heard. he has also played in suffocation and misery index. you can get some mp3s at www.dyingfetus.com or www.misery-index.com. destroy the opposition is my favorite dying fetus release. you can find it at www.relapse.com

band:commit suicide
cd: human larvae:earthly cleansing
drummer:lee fisher

this band is incredible, go to www.commitsuicide.net and download the song "silence beyond the delicate" listen to his one-handed roll at about the 32 second mark. you can get their cd from www.willowtip.com


also check out www.cptkilldrums.com that dude rules too. download the video for the song "torches to nero" by the band brodequin. watch his left hand. sick.