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Check it out guys and gals.  It is a nice addition to the Drummer Cafe. 

Just watched it.  Enjoyed it very much.

...but...must...resist...temptation...t o...make...jokes...about...the...Zoltan ...segment...

 :D

Rock Moves with Zoltan will be an ongoing segment in each broadcast. We've discussed him before here at the Drummer Cafe. I'm fortunate enough to get video footage of Zoltan to use here at the Drummer Cafe; you won't find it anywhere else ... hence the exclusive.  :)

WOW!

First of all Bart, let me just say thank you and I'm very flattered that you included my EPK in your first segment.  Sometimes thank you doesn't even seem like enough.

DC TV!! What an awesome idea! Once again another example of why the DC is just an amazing source for information and education.

Incredible!!!

Hannah

Well, yes, exclusive would be One way to describe it.

 :D

...everything...except...Zoltan...

 :D

Well ... you're showing your age my friend ... but it's okay.  :P

Zoltan is fun, hilarious to watch ... and in my opinion, one of the best examples of showmanship while drumming.

As far as the TV broadcast, hopefully there's something for everyone ... hopefully.

I enjoy watching Zoltan.  Music should be fun.  You can tell there is fun onstage when you watch the clip.

He should be at the end, like on a normal news programme..... "And on a lighter note...."

No, I don't really mind.
I was impressed with Cafe TV.
Quality stuff.
And it worked quite well, which is unusual given my lousy service provider.

Great segments.  Zoltan rulz!

Hey - just for the record - I'm just joshing about Zoltan.
Bringim on.

 :)

who's Zoltan ?  8)

Loved it. I think I'm going to  have to buy and learn every instrument Alex Acuna played in that clip.

(Must remember that name, amazing!)

This weeks episode features my interview with Vince Santoro as well as six pieces from a live performance I recorded.

I loved watching Alex A. play. Cool to see a clip of the different instruments.
 Bart, are you doing the editing for these? I done some video editing and its time consuming. How are you finding the time?

I'm doing the recording, editing and rendering on all the videos I create ... and yes, editing and rendering everything else. It is time consuming, but once the edits are done, the rendering is just the computer crunching away.

I usually render the videos at night while I'm sleeping, or if during the day I'll go practice or do something else. I've incorporated a second computer to do some of the work when I need to use my primary computer. Video is such a memory hog!

As far as finding time, I don't know how, I just do. It's a one man show ... so new content is slow to be added. This could easily be a full time job, but that would mean someone would have to start paying me a salary.  ;D

Glad you are digging the Drummer Cafe TV.

Just an FYI, I'd like to get feedback from everyone, positive/negative, with respect to the direction I'm going and the content. If you don't want to post something here, just send me an email or IM.

I've had a few suggestions on specific interviews you'd like to see, which I am working towards. There's an enormous pool of drummers and percussionists here in Nashville, so that will work to my advantage.  ;D

I'm trying to put some humor in there as well, at least what I think is humorous. I've already learned that some don't like the Zoltan segment, which is fine since not everyone is going to like everything. I do want to try to have something for everyone, which is tough to do on a weekly basis.

Anyway ... I do want feedback.  8)

It has been really busy at work but I promise I will watch the latest tonight and let you know what I think.

The segment on the 11 o'clock HH was fantastic! It was clear, concise, coherent and concrete.

In terms of feedback I'd love to see more demonstrations/discussions like that. The format was excellent.  You could even spread the joy and have "guest clinics" from other Cafe members expanding on forum threads.

Suggestion for next segment:  Our discussion of cliched fills.  I'd love to see someone doing Debbie Boone or Bette Midler...The fill, that is!

By the way, that magically appearing kit must make loading in and loading out a breeze!   :)

Thanks Greg ... good feedback and suggestions.

Incidentally, next week is going to be Billy Ward week on DCTV.

Drummer Cafe TV is just like a State Fair, "bigger and better each time"   

The Chicago Drum Show segment was my favorite part of this episode and I always enjoy Zoltan.  I like the short clip format rather than one long run on segment.  The Demo is a worthwhile feature and I look forward to more of those.  Great job Bart! 

I'm a little surprised that no one commented on the little Freddie Gruber clip. I figured at least one person would say that liked or hated that. It was my attempt at humor, which appears to be lost on this crowd. Guess I need to stop trying so hard!  ;D

We're all a very serious bunch here.  ;D

Actually my friend I did not see it.  So I will go back and try to find it.

I <3 Drummer Cafe TV  :)  seriously, it's cool.

How can you view past installments?  I missed the first one.  Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question or the answer is right in front of my nose. :D

Bart -

Thanks SO VERY MU"CH for including me in this new format.  I feel very flattered to be sharing a platform with Zoltan.  Yes, THUMBS UP on Zoltan for me.  And the "we're not worthy" bit is hilarious!  Keep it up!

BTTW, somebody mentioned Debbie Boone or Bette Midler.  I demonstrate Bette Midler in my new DVD Voices - AND it is in slow-motion!  :D  (in the extras)

Thanks again-
-Billy

Thanks for the encouragement Billy, and thanks again for your support and allowing me to record your clinics and interview you.

Yes, the Billy Ward segments on DCTV were great.  I watched them today.

Thanks guys.

The Billy ward stuff is (honestly) quite fantastic.
I always love to hear people performing songs in their clinics, but on from that, all the stuff about woods, shell construction etc was insanely good.
I'm in my late 40's and I'm learning this stuff from Billy now.
There was nothing[/b] like this when I was in my formative drumming years.
And you are both (Bart and Billy) giving it out free.  :o

In the late 70's, drum clinics were thin on the ground. In the early 80's they really took off, but the ones I attended almost always featured sections of 20 minute drum solos, not much in the way of education IMHO.
When I started doing studio work engineers asked me why I'd arrived with a certain kit or cymbals and I had no answer. I knew nothing.
25 years later I know less than the last couple of generations of working drummers.
Congratulations on an excellent feature.

I'm going to order Big Time today.  I always enjoyed that clinic footage about woods and shells, it used to be in the VIP archives. 

I'm enjoying every bit of the DCTV.  I'd like to be able to watch episodes that I've missed, so maybe it would be possible to add past episodes to the Resources section?

Zoltan rocks.  Hey, if you're going to entertain...ENTERTAIN, right?

Very nice job, Bart. 

To answer both of your questions ... I'm going to archive a lot of the footage (not all) for VIP Members to have access to 24/7.

Things that WILL be archived:

• Lessons
• Interviews
• Zoltan segments

I'll also archive some performance footage, but not all since arrangements have been made to show the footage on DCTV only. Clips from DVDs will be made available to everyone as I get the product pages up; many with reviews.

The concept is to get people to watch every week. ;D This will also (hopefully) attract some advertisers for DCTV. Also, archiving the footage and making it available to VIP Members only encourages (again hopefully) people to become VIP Members and support this site.  8)

This week's DCTV was awesome also.  I don't know how you do it Bart.

Bart, I love the Chef hat!  That is awesome!  Nothing like a good chuckle to start my Sunday.

Great work!  Keep 'em coming!

The chef hat definitely caught my attention a few different times. 
Including over on MySpace.    :)

Bart - maybe you should sell  DC Chef Hats.   :)

Bam!

[I want mine in   Black.]   
[Don't let Hannah design it, or it will have Pink lettering.   :)    ]

Bart,

That Complicated Drumming Advert is hilarious. The 1st one I thought might have been because some dude paid you a lot to run it and maybe it was one of those English as a third language thing ;>)  Then the 2nd one with the famous drummer quotes just added to the LOL.

Unfortunately I can identify too much with the Bill Cosby discussion trying to play too fast on the ride beyond your capabilities. ;>(

Boomerweps

This is the first that I've heard of PercaDu, they are amazing!! Doesn't look like they get to the states much though by the tour schedule.

I like the idea of a semi regular 'Classic Drum Licks' segment.

Classic drum licks and Zoltan, what a way to make my week.  Another great episode.  Thanks Bart. 

Thanks for the feedback. After Chris had posted the "50 Ways" clip, I realized I should create not only lessons ... breaking things down further and/or different than the masters who created them, but actually have a regular segment on DCTV showcasing these licks/grooves ... hence the Legendary Drum Licks.

I already had the Meters' "Cissy Strut" planned to demonstrate and notate for DCTV, but will go ahead and feature more of this kind of stuff in the future. DCTV viewers will be able to click on the screen to be taken to a full lesson on the groove/lick.

The Zoltan stuff is just crazy; good laugh.

The PercaDu performance is nice as well. I'm in contact with these guys to hopefully get some more from them.

I haven't heard any comments about my "Care & Feeding" photo ... I shot that this morning ... thought it was a funny ... treating my Pork Pie Popcorn Snare like a caged animal; feeding it a banana. I'm sure most of the footage is 'old news' to me, but there are a lot of young players that need to know these basic techniques.

I've got some surprises on the horizon with additional contributors adding to the mix of DCTV.  8)

Just finished watching the latest installment of DCTV.
Bart, thanks for another great piece!
I always loved Bellson!
Great job!!!

The Buddy Rich footage was AMAZING. As a young drummer (relatively) I've not been exposed to nearly enough vintage drumming.  I've seen the gorilla vid before... I don't know where... but I have.
Thanks so much Bart! Keep it up!

Gotta love Lionel Hampton!  The original "stick trick" master!

Hey Bart I just want to say thank you for the inspiration with the site, The TV thing is a great idea. I have been struggling with ideas for a new project because of pirating and the general shift the internet has caused in our profession. I have been kind of behind the times with the net a little bit. Your work here has inspired me. If you can I would love to rap on the phone with you.

All the best
PM

Thanks Phil. I'd be happy to speak with you and see if there's anything I can help you with.


I'm having fun with DCTV although it is very time consuming. I get a little carried away, like the new CYMBAL thriller (public service announcement) that I created; a parody of Alfred Hitchcock's Pyscho. I don't know exactly how many hours I spent on it, the concept and idea came very quickly, but all the time editing and finding footage ... definitely put in 20+ hours over the course of a week. All that to say I WILL be airing CYMBAL more than just this week!  ;D hahaha

Is there any way to access past DCTV episodes?

Good question.

At this time I'm not archiving the entire episode, but various segments are archived elsewhere on the Drummer Cafe website. Much of this is available to registered members, but some segments are archived for VIP Members only.

Places to look would be Resources | Video Footage (http://www.drummercafe.com/content/category/1/30/40/) as well as Education | 5-Minute Lessons (http://www.drummercafe.com/content/category/5/15/19/). I would recommend that you visit these parts of the site every few days or at least once a week IF you are looking for past episode content. It takes me awhile to get content from past DCTV episodes to their permanent archived homes.

Great episode Bart! Hitchcock was hilarious, and Gavin's cymbal song and your Industrival were very creative!!
Thanks for your efforts. I think every 2 wks would be good, I'm don't want to have a busy week and miss one.
I know time flies with video editing, i wonder how long it too for someone to do that YYZ segment?

Thanks Bob ... glad you dug the episode. I had a lot of fun with the Hitchcock thing. I was really pleased with the toilet shot with all the chemical cans in there.  ;D I found other footage of Hitchcock and flew in some of the words to make it work .... "assembly" for the drumset instead of 'hotel' and "dirt" instead of 'blood' in the bathroom.

I still want to do a new episode each week if at all possible. Since I'm archiving most of the footage to other locations on the site, I would just assume to keep it a weekly show. Two weeks is an awfully long time to wait for a new show ... although with the work it takes to edit and create the content, I wouldn't mind the extra time! hahaha

Bobby Standridge spent 18 months working on the Rush animation of YYZ. Pretty good for his first animation project like this. He did this a little over 3 years ago, and we've seen it here on the site in the past. I figured there were a lot of people who have never seen it before, hence the reason for showing it on DCTV.

The "assembly" in the lot had me laughing, but the "I love Drums" sticker had me cracking up.

Each week keeps getting better, Bart. The "Psycho" shot of blood going down the drain that you turned into the cymbal hole was beautifully done.

But I wouldn't mind an every other week show. I don't ever have enough time to sit and watch the whole episode in one sitting, so I end up having to skip some parts hoping to get back to it later, then the week is over and I've misssed it. :'(

Thanks Larry. Actually the cymbal hole was supposed to represent the girl's eye. The close of the eye with the camera rotating and backing away to reveal her body. I took that approach with the cymbal. Hey, you liked it, I don't care! hahaha

I will definitely consider changing the schedule of DCTV to be every two weeks. If enough people feel like you, and there are others, then perhaps I need to seriously consider doing that. I would archive each episode as a whole, but that sort of defeats my goal of generating interest every week ... and someday, maybe even an advertiser or two. Archiving the content, with the bulk of it only being available to VIP Members is to <clears throat> try and encourage people to become VIP Members.

I see your points. Every two weeks would be much easier on me! I could make the shows a little longer, and the content would be able to be more in depth. I've some upcoming interviews that I think everyone will enjoy ... and a few more surprises.

If there are others who feel like two week episodes would be better, please email me or voice it here. If you don't like DCTV or don't plan on watching it, there's no need to voice your opinion on this particular topic.  ;D

Thank you ALL for the feedback; I really do appreciate your input.

I'll give some input. I think the DCTV is great. Every episode has been really, really good. I like having it to watch every single week. I would completely understand if it needed to be every 2 weeks instead. I have to say that I do enjoy having something to watch every single week. I probably have more time available than most people, so that isn't an issue for me.

For the record, I really love how you have been taking current issues that are running in the cafe and teaching them in the episodes.

 
Amazing, really fantastic.
How could I watch the previous weeks' programmes that I missed?
 

You can read what I'm doing to archive the content in this post. (http://www.drummercafe.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,2/topic,23165.msg265383#msg265383)

Glad you are liking DCTV!

 
Great idea to challenge me to get a VIP membership. :) I'll consider it, really. Even though I've never wanted to be a VIP anywhere...  8)

BTW, who is this Zoltan mentioned all through this topic? The name seems Hungarian, and I'm from Hungary, too...
 

Zoltan Chaney
http://www.zoltanchaney.com/ (http://www.zoltanchaney.com/)

Thanks. His way of playing is really interesting. But I can't find any biographical info on his site... Is he of Hungarian origin?