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Tiki
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« on: August 30, 2005, 04:54 AM »

Hello, newbie here. I have been cruising thru the Cafe here and enjoying all of the information. I do have a question and would appreciate any information you have to offer.
What bearing edges would you prefer if you were buying a set of custom built drums. I realize different music would benefit from different edge shapes but what if any would be of more all around use?
Thanks, Tiki....
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2005, 05:56 AM »

I'm a big fan of the dbl cut 45.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 09:04 AM »

IMHO the key is how much contact there is between the head and the edge.  A sharp edge (such as a double-45-degree cut) will have minimal contact, and will allow more sustain and (as I understand it, and based on my experience) will result in a slightly brighter-sounding drum.  A rounder cut will have more contact between the shell and head, and will produce a "warmer" sound with a bit less sustain.  Often, builders will "split the difference," cutting a sharp double-45-degree cut, but lightly sanding the edges to round them off a bit.

Here's a page from SMD Drums (a custom builder), that presents a variety of bearing edges, with pictures and descriptions:

http://www.smddrums.com/bearing_edges.htm

The double-45 seems to be the cut "du jour" - everyone seems to offer that one these days.  The toms on my old six-ply Ludwigs (not THAT old, just late '70s, but not the "classic 3-ply vintage" early-70s-and-earlier Luddies) have a bit of a rounded outer edge to the cut, and they've got a wonderful, warm sound.  I think that if I had to choose just one shape for my bearing edges, I'd lean towards something like these - a 45-degree inner cut with a rounded outer edge.

One interesting possibility I've heard proposed, but I've not had the chance to try it:  some sort of rounded edge on the batter head, for a nice, warm attack without excessive overtones, but with a sharp double-45 cut on the resonant side to...well, maximize resonance.  Wink  I've heard that proposed as a nice middle ground between "modern" drum sounds and "vintage" drum sounds.  Again, I haven't tried it, but I sure do like the logic.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 10:23 AM »

Wow, James, I really like that Idea.  I hadn't heard that one before.  It makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 11:11 AM »

My favorite would be the rounded bearing edges and that wonderful warm sound they produce.  Different types of music will require other edges for the best sound, but the rounded edges IMO are the best all-around edges.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 02:40 PM »

i love 30degree bearing edge
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 04:15 PM »

Bamn! Thats what I have 30 degree bearing edges on mahogany! Warmest lowest sustain too bad my kit isn't african mahogany cuz that would be incredible. Anywho for anything earthy or more organic sounding, anything with more body and tone to it i go for 30 degree anything more modern and cleanier i go for 45 double.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005, 05:39 PM »

All I will add is that the sharper the edge, the narrower the tuning range of the drum. At least that is my understanding. That might be something to consider if you are thinking about using different bearing edges on top and bottom and your rack toms are fairly close in size.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2005, 08:02 PM »

The edges on my Signias are rounded and i lllooooove that fat vintage type sound. I dont care about attack that much. I had an irregular edge on my 12 and sent it to Precision to have it trued. A double 45 was put on it and now the drum really doesnt match the rest at all in character. BIG mistake on my part. Ill have Nodar Rode put the old edge back on and ill be happy as can be again.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2005, 09:29 PM »

All I will add is that the sharper the edge, the narrower the tuning range of the drum. At least that is my understanding.

I've heard that thought expressed before, that the shape of the bearing edge can affect the drum's tuning range.  (I had heard the opposite, tho, that a sharper edge offered a greater tuning range, but it has been so long since I've thought about it, that I may not be remembering the conversation correctly.  I've never sent a tom to have its edges recut, so I've never done an a/b comparison of this sort of thing.)  I wonder why the shape of the edge would have an influence on a drum's tuning range?
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 04:58 AM »

Thanks for the input on this subject.
The results were as I expected, fairly broad in scope.  Guess I'll take a couple of spare drums and round them off a bit and see what happens.
Thanks again! Tiki.
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