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junglelord
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2005, 05:31 PM »

i believe that the most influence lately for me has been the Thomas  Lang Clinic in Ottawa a few months ago. the Left foot clive is my new thing, which can wrap your head sometimes, as i always try to play it as an independant. also the multiple pedal placement was a new idea, so i joined my Roland TD3 to my Sonor kit, and well the results and challanges are just incredible! 3 months of hard practice and after 30 years of drumming, i am still improving. Thomas Land advocates any one rudiment overlayed with another, ie doubles with the hands and paradiddle with the feet, doubles over triples, etc...good for a brain hiccup! but when you can chew gum and walk at the same time, well the world is a new place!
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2005, 05:47 PM »

yea....very good book. I had the oppertunity to study with the co-author of that book so he got me into that stuff way before it ever hit the shelf. this book has taken me to some very scary places. I now can play some sick ostinatos between any two limbs useing multiple pedals and soloing freely over them....including polyrhythmic stuff and some metric modulation over it. I can't say enough good things about this book!!!!!!!!!!

I've mostly been practicing soloing over a 2-3 rumba clave with my left foot... very cool.  Cool I haven't exactly tried what you're doing yet,  Sad I don't even have enough equipment to do that!  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2005, 06:06 PM »

neither did I....I had to go on a shopping spree and my fiancee bought me a dw double bass pedal for christmas.....so now I have 5 pedals....on the left (from l to r) jam block, hihat, bass drum...on the right bass drum, cable hat.
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2005, 06:31 PM »

That's awesome, you should post some pics of your set.
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2005, 07:18 PM »

I don't have any new pics since I've added stuff to it but I will as soon as I get some. All that I have is some pics from a video shoot that I did a few weeks back for the md undiscovered drummer contest. The manufacturer of the drums that I play also wants pics so I have to do this soon anyway (they also wanted the video so I sent it to both the owner and the ar guy)...I also sent it to another cafe member who wanted to see it....but again its not the full kit....but I may post the pics from the shoot anyway....I'll let you know.
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2005, 07:25 PM »

Hey cool.... Im doing that as well, I'm 14 so I'm in the under 18 category. Let's just hope it all goes well. I had a good time preparing it, now I've just gotta get that birth certificate and make the DVD copy, then write the biography. And it goes into the mail!

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2005, 06:54 AM »

i have five pedals as well, electronic hi hat, hi hat, left double bass (3 to left) right double bass and electronic bass on right. i often play two pedals on the left by using heel on one and forefoot on the other, and when your mind goes blank you can play both pedals as seperate items with a rocking motion from the left foot (need to hit some strange mental zone for that to happen, if i think to hard it does not work, when i let go, i often giggle inside at what i can do with out actually trying to make it happen)!
the electronic pedals are able to create lots of different sounds, clave, cowbell, tamborine, different things for different songs, it is just a Roland TD3 but i am very pleased with this electronic kit. i always use a bass sound on the right electronic pedal, but switch the sound for the left hi hat quite a bit
mississippi queen is cool, left foot cowbell, you get the idea
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2005, 04:29 PM »

I can't get a hold of Marco Minneman's book... Is there any american online shop you can buy it from?
They don't have it at the dealers I usually go to, although they all hace heard of it:P

Another coordination thing I started to enjoy lately:
I live in a apartment where they don't like me drumming so i ttry to keep it down at home, this has made me use less bass drum and more hihat.
Just by placing some nice 16th's on the hihat (with your foot) can add sooo much to a groove! You can also experiment with a whole world of cool obstinatos with lot of 16th notes on left foot to get it going...
 

Chill!
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2005, 07:28 PM »

Just go to www.amazon.com I'm sure they'll have it.
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2005, 09:25 PM »

to get you started Rob.....if you have stick control take ex1 (pg 5) play this with the feet then play the rest of the page overtop of it with your hands. When you're done that play #1 with you're hands and play the rest with the feet...and so on until the whole page is done....this will keep you going for a while and is the "basic" premice of Marco's book.
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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2005, 10:51 PM »

mediablamer, I like you.
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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2005, 10:59 PM »

And Hammertown, I like you.  If one could make you two into one, you would both be incredible drummers.

I hate to think when I play the tough stuff.  Just a simple count through the measure/s when you are "outside".  Practice your patterns till it's as easy as 2&4... then when you will realize how hard it is to play two and 4 you will be getting pretty kick ass on the drums. Cool
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2005, 11:02 PM »

BTW I bet you two are good players.  I hope I can hear you cats someday.
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2005, 12:53 PM »

I'm working on a website with some of my work on it....I'll let you know when its up.
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2005, 05:56 PM »

Let me know too!!  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2005, 06:56 PM »

Hey Robert also check out mike mangini's c and c system...this is a killer exercise and its very similar to but a lot faster than Jon E's routine...pm me if you don't know what this is and I can write it out for you.

 i would love to know what's the C and C system, please write it out for us

thanks
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