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« on: December 29, 2003, 08:39 PM »

Our church needs new set of congas, as old CP with bent rims just don't cut it anymore.

Local shop here has pair of Matadors for $399. Not a bad deal. I was also looking at these performer congas. I tried oneat GC and they seem fine actualy I liked it better then the Classics they had. But that probably because it was tuned. Anybody has an opinion on these. Are these just repackaged Aspire congas. Though the sizes are different. I don't know.

Oh yea... the deal is sweet on these too. $419 for set of three from Musicians friend.  Well the deal can be alarming too I guess  Roll Eyes Tongue Huh cause you get what you pay for...  Undecided  Smiley


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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2003, 08:52 PM »



Latin Percussion Performer Series Quinto and Conga with FREE Tumba



Man ... you can hardly beat that!

The Matador congas are nice too ... but three new drums for that price? Hmmm

I personally haven't played on the Performed congas that much, although what little I have ... I was impressed with them.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2003, 08:48 AM »

The Matadors are made of Ash, which is light on the density like Mahogany. Gives a real mellow full tone like Mahogany, and they're Rumba shaped, which means they're wider in the middle than Gon Bops and other classicly shaped barrel congas.
So, they're going to give a super mellow full round sound.
I heard from a few Congueros around here that the Matadors are actually made from the same shell that they make for the top of the line Giovannis,, but they have slight imperfections, so they become the "second in line". Of course, that's probably an urban myth.

Well, I just had to modify what I said earlier!
Just looked up LP's congaline:
http://www.lpmusic.com/Product_Showcase/Congas/index.html
And it looks like the new Matador line wood congas are Oak!

So, if you pick up the drums and they weigh a ton, then they're Oak - and the sound will be loud and sharp. If they're fairly light, then they're Ash, and they'll be much mellower.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2003, 10:00 AM »

L.P just keeps coming out with more and more lines to dominate more of the market, the competiton is fierce right now with so many companies making similar congas(rubberwood or Thai "oak") in Thailand. This competition has brought prices down and quality up (sometimes). The performer series is a good deal. Matador is a 'full size' drum pretty much the same as L.P. classics with cosmetic difference.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2003, 12:48 PM »

L.P just keeps coming out with more and more lines to dominate more of the market, the competiton is fierce right now with so many companies making similar congas(rubberwood or Thai "oak") in Thailand. This competition has brought prices down and quality up (sometimes). The performer series is a good deal. Matador is a 'full size' drum pretty much the same as L.P. classics with cosmetic difference.

And keep in mind that Kaman owns LP now, as well as Toca ... so yes, there's a lot of domination going on.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2003, 08:20 AM »

Does anyone know what the significant differences are between the LP Matador and LP Classic congas?  For such a major difference in price, I've got to think there's more than just cosmetic differences.

I mean, both are made with the Siam Oak and both have the same heads.  They also both sound pretty much the same (they both sound great)--I actually own a Classic Conga and a Matador Tumba.  But, I'm pretty sure they've always used the same type of wood on both because I have owned both of mine for nearly 10 years and they feel, sound and look similar.  My purchase, at the time, was based strictly on sound, not on price, but I was fully aware then, and of course now, that the Matador was much cheaper.

Anyway, I'm in the market for a quinto and again, I've tried both a Classic and a Matador quinto.  I don't hear any major sound differences even though cosmetically, the heads appear to be a little different.  Both drums are also the same 11" diameter.  

Does anyone have any other info/experience with the differences between these two LP lines?  Is it strictly the hardware/heads?
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2003, 01:05 PM »

As I see it, the differences between matador and L.P. classic are: the rims, matador comes with what LP. calls "easy strike or soft strike rims" something like that which are really their old "comfort curve" rims used on the classics of the last century. Now all pro-model L.P.s have "comfort curve 2" rims , a different shape that is more 'ergomatic'.  The heads are probably not first pick but high quality. Lastly I think they put fewer coats of laquer.      If you like the classic you should like matador.  Both drums benefit (imo) from replacing the L.P. head with a thicker cow skin head.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2003, 01:23 PM »

The staves of the shell seem to be a lot thicker in the LP. I don't remember the Matadors being that heavy.

I don't know what sizes the Matadors come in these days, but they used to not come in the "standard" sizes.

Basically, the workmanship is not found in the Matador drums as you see in the LP drums. It's not that the Matador drums are bad, because they are good ... but that LP Classics (and brands/models like them) tend to work with the bearing edge more and spend a lot more time with the drum.
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