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« on: July 16, 2002, 01:19 PM »

hey all,

i was reading trough felix` pearl topic, and i started wondering. there are different ways to mic a basdrum, most of the times you see the mic placed in front, but you can get them inside as well (with our without hole)

Now i was wondering, if you would have a hole in the front head, but put the mic pretty close to the batter head inside the drum, what would the difference be with that and with one with a holeless front head?

or what would the effect be if you would put a mic in the bassdrum and one in front and mix a sound out of that?

I hope someone in here experimented with this stuff, if so, please tell!
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2002, 01:32 PM »

or what would the effect be if you would put a mic in the bassdrum and one in front and mix a sound out of that?

Well, first you'll have to deal with the delay kind of things, I know you'll say "but the distance is very small"
Even knowing this, some freq. will the cutted off and it can cause more reverb or chorus...

There's a lot of mic technics, like the 8-form, X-form, Y-form, etc...

It will also depends on the mics your using... If you can tell me I can sketch out those methods and results in an "frequency response" chart... I've been working on recordings for a good time...

Hope I've helped
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2002, 01:42 PM »

thanks for the explanation Mateus!

I think a nice overview about recording drums in general would be really nice, maybe you can put it up somewhere if you have the time!

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2002, 06:45 AM »

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I couldn't tell you about the delay thing.

The closer one mics to the beater the more attack or point you are going to get and usually less low end tone following the point.

Alot of cats are doing this resonator deal now on kicks I have been noticing. I think they should just put a front head back on and learn how to tune.  What do you guys think?

A mic by the beater and a mic by the front head (two tracks) is cool if you have the time and inclination to mix the two.

My buddy usually samples kick drums anymore with a lot of point and low end.  It translates well in smaller systems cause you get all that attack and the low end isn't there anyways but one still gets a decent kick drum image.  When you play it back on a real system, man that low end just unfolds and it is like one can aurally  walk in and listen to the rest of music/frequencies...it's cool.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2002, 08:16 AM »

Hey I agree with felix, put the front head and learn how to tune the thing, bass drum recordings have a lot of factors to consider, room, heads, mics, mic placing, etc.  You need to experiment with all these different things to get the sound you are looking for, there is no one right way to do it, My advice would be to get a good puncy sound and then work on that with Plug-ins, one of the last recording I did the guy put a D-112 about 3 inches in front of the bass drum then stuck a U-87 about two feet behind that, the U-87 sounded great we kept that one, I tried this again a few weeks ago at a different studio, Did'nt work, so again you must experiment from recording to recording.

Just my two pennies.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2002, 11:50 AM »

LOL
Regarding the resonator bass drum trend felix mentioned and pictured:
I think it's a marketing campaign by the drum manufacturers. Recent trends have been for drummers to downsize their sets from the oodles of toms that were once popular. (Bozzio excepted)
They have to introduce a perceived need for more drums.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2002, 08:41 PM »

Check out the recent Electronic Musician magazine (August 2002). There is an article on Kick drum  miking ....I mean ...bass drum miking ....I've never gotten used to the word 'kick'  Grin
Has some techniques in use by some cool producer/engineers.

My favorite one to try one day: Using a 10 to 15" speaker 'reversed' to make it a microphone. Sounds cool anyway.


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