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JimHrdz
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« on: July 26, 2004, 11:32 PM »

Does n e one have advice or tips on how to have a better double stroke?
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2004, 11:48 PM »

I think you will find exactly what you need at this section of Vic Firth's site: Rudimental Technique with Mark Wessels.

Don't be shy about looking around the rest of the education section as well; I found it to be of very good use.  It doesn't replace private instruction, but it doesn't fall that short of it in my humble opinion.
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mattlapp
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 02:40 AM »

Yes Joe gave you the good link. The good way of getting better double strokes is that you practce double strokes with pauses so you pay attention to the second stroke also. Check out Marks page. He describes it the best.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2004, 10:59 AM »

A guy stopped me the other day and asked, "hey, how do you get to Carnegie Hall?" I said, "practice man, practice!"

Set up a practice pad while you sit and watch TV and double stroke away!
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2004, 11:27 AM »

The key to double strokes is clearly the second stroke - usually played with the fingers. There are a number of exercises to strengthen and build control in your fingers. One - which can be found in Gary Chaffee's books - is to hold the stick between the thumb and index finger and then play a series of rhythms (8th-note triplets, groups of 16ths) with each finger successively. For instance, one group of 16ths with only the middle finger, then one with the third finger, and so on. Then switch it up and change the order. Remember to keep the other fingers off of the stick (slightly) while playing the figures.

Another exercise (I think I saw Plowboy mention Morello giving this one to his students) is to hold the stick between the index and third fingers and play bounce strokes with the fingers - bouncing the stick in the palm of the hand.

I've found these isolation exercises to be quite helpful. There is no substitute for practice, and a copy of Stone's Accents and Rebounds, however....
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2004, 11:34 AM »

i heard its best to try accenting the second stroke of the double stroke.  helps tighten up things for a smoother sound.

took me forever to get straight, but seems to working great now!
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2004, 01:49 PM »

Another exercise (I think I saw Plowboy mention Morello giving this one to his students) is to hold the stick between the index and third fingers and play bounce strokes with the fingers - bouncing the stick in the palm of the hand.

i'm feeling like a retardo here.  can you explain this more?
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2004, 03:46 PM »

Sure. Turn your hand palm-up. Place a stick so that it lays in the  crook between your index and middle fingers and so that the butt end of the stick rests in the palm of the hand. Then close your four fingers (not the thumb) so that  your middle, third and pinky fingers rest on the stick. The index finger is only used to hold the stick against the middle finger, and does not rest on the stick, however. The thumb should stay relaxed and pointing naturally outward.

Now turn your palm down. Bounce the stick using your middle, third, and pinky fingers - either all at once, in combinations of two, or one at a time. This will help increase 'sensation' and dexterity in the fingers, leading to greater control for double- and multiple-stroke figures.

If you raise your hand, it should look like you are giving someone the 'finger' in big way, actually. Wink

Does that help?
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