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« Reply #80 on: February 26, 2006, 03:11 PM » |
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Buddy's the reason the drumometer exists. If it weren't for his comment to Barrett Deems at the Chicago Namm show ages ago, Boo never would have had the idea to invent it.
Buddy wouldn't have been in the running against the guys winning today, and that's not to take anything from him. He was an incredible player and one of a kind.
Yep. I've heard the Buddy/Barrett/Boo NAMM story. I still doubt Buddy would have cared. |
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« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2006, 03:36 PM » |
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thats true is'nt it?
i knew that, but had forgotten.
good one.
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« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2006, 04:18 PM » |
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Yep. I've heard the Buddy/Barrett/Boo NAMM story. I still doubt Buddy would have cared.
I think Buddy was very competitive by nature and would have smoked anybody who thought they could play faster than he. Witness Buddy versus Ed Shaunessy on the Tonight Show, Ed with 2 bassdrums and Buddy with one. And it wouldn't be on just a practice pad but on his snare during a drum battle. That's my opinion. |
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« Reply #83 on: March 02, 2006, 08:04 PM » |
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MY concern is that a lot of young drummers (and this is who the D-o-M is largely marketed at) will get caught up in creating 'speed' rather than developing their musical talents - their listening/accompaniament skills, their rhythmic/harmonic/melodic thinking. I remember more than one of my early teachers remarking on young players' "need for speed". One mentioned how he had to go back and re-learn everything at around age 30 because he had spent his youth trying to play everything *fast* and had actually ended up hindering his own overall musical and drumming development. I took that to heart and tried to avoid that pitfall.
As a 14 year old... there are too many kids caught up in speed. I don't really care how fast someone is really, it dont matter. |
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« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2006, 04:13 PM » |
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What a contradiction
First I read about drummers saying Buddy didn't care about speed and Drum Meters
Than I read about how Buddy would smoke out any drummer that claims he's faster than he
Are there two Buddy Riches or what?
I constantly read about these contradictions
Which way was it Ya or Nine? ha ha ha
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« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2006, 06:23 PM » |
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What a contradiction
First I read about drummers saying Buddy didn't care about speed and Drum Meters
Than I read about how Buddy would smoke out any drummer that claims he's faster than he
Are there two Buddy Riches or what?
I constantly read about these contradictions
Which way was it Ya or Nine? ha ha ha
It's speculation since he's not here, but Buddy was the first to admit he was the best drummer in the world, and the fastest. If he had a machine that could have actually proved it, or not, he might of jumped in and showed all what he was made of, or possible backed off from the fastest claim and just maintained he was the best.  |
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« Reply #86 on: March 07, 2006, 01:42 PM » |
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Buddy was pretty arrogant, so you can believe that. He was naturally very talented on the drums, you can believe that too.
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« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2006, 04:20 PM » |
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Well guys I couldn't help myself and bought one last weekend.
I have been working with it for 3 days now.
It is well made and I think it will last *probably outlast me*
It is indeed a wonderful tool and I will be using the machine to improve my technique and of course SPEED and POWER!!!!
I went to the Tiger Bill, Art Verdi masterclass clinic last weekend and saw these guys in action. I gotta say I am not worthy! But I was totally inspired and with the drumometer and some proper instruction I am on my way again. Let the journey begin!
Oh, the clinic- right... I almost forgot. I think I should find a suitable thread and post some pictures of me and our own Drumodad there (who has some cool technique himself btw) with Art and Tiger Bill. This school of technique is awesome (but freakin' difficult). I was floored.
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« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2006, 04:27 PM » |
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Oh and the drumometer has a built in metronome with a pedal activated reset switch- well made too.
Really, it's cool guys.
You set your tempos and then play your stickings to a click... you can speed it up, slow it down or turn it off (the click) and the machine will still keep count. This is important for your meter and execution.
you do this stuff with your feet too (obviously)
Seriously, it's very cool
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« Reply #89 on: May 12, 2006, 08:36 AM » |
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Here's the pic. Pretty cool huh? Isn't anyone going to bag on the drumometer, fastest hands thing?  Peace, f.  |
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« Reply #90 on: May 12, 2006, 10:04 AM » |
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Great pic. Felix, I have the exact same shirt. |
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« Reply #91 on: May 13, 2006, 11:30 AM » |
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Who's who in that picture?
The guy on the right I think is Art Verdi
I recognise him from the pictures on his site
Where's Tiger Bill?
He has great info on his site about the Billy Gladstone technique
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« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2006, 12:01 AM » |
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Well guys I couldn't help myself and bought one last weekend.
I have been working with it for 3 days now.
It is well made and I think it will last *probably outlast me*
It is indeed a wonderful tool and I will be using the machine to improve my technique and of course SPEED and POWER!!!!
I went to the Tiger Bill, Art Verdi masterclass clinic last weekend and saw these guys in action. I gotta say I am not worthy! But I was totally inspired and with the drumometer and some proper instruction I am on my way again. Let the journey begin!
Oh, the clinic- right... I almost forgot. I think I should find a suitable thread and post some pictures of me and our own Drumodad there (who has some cool technique himself btw) with Art and Tiger Bill. This school of technique is awesome (but freakin' difficult). I was floored.
I'm with you felix... Music is not all about speed and neither is the drumometer. I own one too and find it a good way to work on precision. I've said all along, it is just another tool. Some guys disparage the drumometer and think it focuses too much on speed and not enough on music. It could have that effect I suppose, but it doesn't have to. The drumometer clues you in to how you rank with some of the fastest cats around. It actually made me realize shear speed was not my strong point, that the pursuit of speed in and of itself was not something I wanted afterall. I think for someone of my abilities, I might push above my natural 800 bpm. But I believe if I stopped daily hard training, I'd quickly revert back to my normal speed. Hey, I'm no Buddy Rich, and I'm not going to try to be. I'll continue on my craft and make sure when I do play 800 bpm that it comes back into the bar on time.  |
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« Reply #93 on: May 16, 2006, 11:50 PM » |
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« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2006, 04:37 AM » |
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He's pretty fast. Especially with that left hand traditional grip- I covet that.
What really amazes me the more screw around with a drumometer (besides how incredibly slow I am) is how my good my fulcrum feels at the second joint. Good power and speed from that position and for years I had teachers telling me to get away from that position.
Now, it's like "whatever is clever"- if it feels good, do it.
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« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2006, 07:28 AM » |
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I'll continue on my craft and make sure when I do play 800 bpm that it comes back into the bar on time.
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« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2006, 08:36 AM » |
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This kid has been all over the Internet this week. He's the WFD 16 and under world champion.
He actually posted here in the "Let's hear/see You Play" section a few nights ago but I can't seem to find them anymore. I agree, from reading his posts on other forums, he has a good head on his shoulders. |
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« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2006, 02:36 PM » |
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Wow---that is pretty impressive. I hope he comes back to the Cafe. I'd like to ask him how in the world he's able to maintain that left hand fulcrum so well, when it appears that he may be predominantly using his thumb, rather than index finger (ala Art Verdi). (I'm a trad grip player, also, so this stuff fascinates me. ) Then again, either my monitor is pretty poor or I'm going blind, so I might not be seeing things correctly (maybe he IS using his index finger predominantly)!   |
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« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2006, 04:39 PM » |
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« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2006, 06:22 PM » |
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Hi this is Matt Good stuff Matt. Seems like you have a good head on your shoulders for a "youngen". Rock on... |
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