just a quick update...i visited my friend at sam ash and he can get me the PDP set i talked about before with a Zildjian ZBT 4-piece cymbal set and hardware for everything for $800.

lol i'm not rushing things don't worry...i'm actually being patient for once about something.  ok so not technically patient...but this is about as patient as i get so it'll have to do lol.

anyway, this sounded like a pretty good deal to me, especially since guitar center would give me everything for right around $1250.  and yeah, i know not to compare prices with GC's...but i did anyway lol.

don't worry...i haven't bought anything yet...possibly this thursday though...

thanks again guys.  especially unseenguest lol.  i really do appreciate all that youve done dude...thanks a ton.  

really?  i heard the exact opposite actually...that the ZBTs were far superior to the B8s.  i thought i heard that from two of my friends who are drummers and who tried both, but only one is coming to mind, so maybe i only heard it from one person and maybe he just said it twice.  either way, how were they disappointing?  if you dont mind me asking

thanks for your help

With 4 Mapex kits, I can vouch for the quality of the Mapex shells.  The hardware is very impressive too, especially from the Pro-M level on up.  Excellent value across the board.  I had thought that the M-series (as opposed to Pro-M series) bass drums were all 16" deep, not 18", but I could be wrong.  And, yes, they went to 100% maple this year (2003 was maple/basswood).  An awesome value.