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« on: August 04, 2004, 03:04 PM » |
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Howdy from Norway - I'm on the last leg of a short Scandinavian tour, and am finally starting to feel human. I've been sick as a dog for several days - sniffling, sneezing, coughing, and feverish. Oh, and gigging.
I'm sure a lot of you have been there. "The show must go on" sounds like a great idea until you're sick. Then you start wondering just how important that show is...
I've toured for years, and think of myself as a smart traveler, but this time I dropped the ball. I haven't been sick on the road in a long time, so in my hurried packing, the "pharmacy" I used to always haul around the globe got left at home. That left me stomping around the rainy streets of Stockholm unsuccessfully hunting for a bottle of Nyquil. Nobody I found had ever heard of the stuff.
Anyway, it made me think of posting, to see how everybody else copes with this. On the worst night, I cut back on my rather physical approach to playing, and ALMOST lowered my cymbals. I purposely wore rather heavy clothes, and sweated my @ss off, drinking almost 2 litres of water during the show. It was unpleasant during the show, but I think I sweated a lot of the bad stuff out of my system. And I played very carefully, not wanting my illness to cause my performance to suffer, particularly in the large venues we were playing. Historically I play okay when I'm sick, because I'm so intent on compensating for my lack of energy with musical accuracy.
All in all, things went fairly well, although I couldn't live up to the "Animal" vibe to which I typically aspire. The drummer in the opening act seemed to dig it, and was asking for all kinds of tips and pointers, which I tried to deliver between coughs.
So how about you? How do you cope with gigging when you don't feel up to par? Any horror stories?
I know our pal Drumgun has a puke bucket onstage to help him cope with his migraines - my hat's forever off to him for his ability to "play through the pain." And I also have a very vivid way of keeping things in perspective: our organ player is fighting prostate cancer, and spends most of his days on the road throwing up in hotel bathrooms, which makes me feel pretty puny for complaining about a mere fever.
Still, at whatever level, playing when you're sick is hard work, so I thought I'd throw the subject out for discussion.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2004, 04:04 PM » |
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Great idea for a thread, Mr_A - this is something just about all of us have to deal with at some time or another. On the worst night, I cut back on my rather physical approach to playing I tend to do the same sort of thing, but I've found that playing when tired (to the point of exhaustion) or ill, causes me to streamline my mental approach - I really start to focus on core elements in my playing. I tend to simplify, and ironically, I do some of my best playing when I'm about ready to fall over. I find myself conserving my mental energy as well as my physical energy. I should add that these observations are based on my experiences when playing steel pan or vibes, which doesn't involve the same physical exertion that (I imagine) a Clarence Clemons drum set gig (or comparable) involves.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2004, 06:27 PM » |
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Ugg... Playing sick stinks. The worst part of playing when you're sick is afterwards. All the adrenalin that gets you over set-up and the actual gig leaves faster than inmates on a prison break. Sorry to hear that you were battling the bug Mr A. Re: Nyquil - You should have tried some of this stuff instead...  It's just about the same. (And if it didn't work as well as Nyquil, you wouldn't have cared anyway.  )
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2004, 08:33 PM » |
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I really tend to slow down a LOT when playing sick. My intensity level definitely lowers through the songs, almost impossible to control.
I can see the added focus you guys mention, and the effort is definitely there, though the intensity loss really cuts me back.
Haven't played a show like this, luckily. But rehearsals are gruesome that way anyways.
OT: Christopher - What the hell do you dring your Jagger with?? I found it awful with coke... will tonic do the trick?
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2004, 09:50 PM » |
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hope you are better soon...and sweating will not make you better. sweat glands do not remove viral or bacteria matter eat well, sleep well and rest 
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2004, 06:25 AM » |
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OT: Christopher - What the hell do you dring your Jagger with?? I found it awful with coke... will tonic do the trick?
Just straight (when I actually do drink). I can imagine that mixing it with coke would be nasty. Here's something that sounds like it would be equally gross to mixing it with coke... Jager Bomb
(Scale ingredients to servings) 1 can Red Bull 1 oz Jagermeister
Pour red bull into a pint glass. Drop in a shot glass filled with jagermeister, and chug.yuck... 
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2004, 06:50 AM » |
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I've never missed a show due to illness (knock wood!).
There have been times when I didn't WANT to play, but did anyway.
It seems like during the sets I would be OK--adrenaline rush, I suppose. Then during breaks, I'd sink. Then back up in the next set.
Then die when I got home.
Like you mentioned--LOTS of H2O!
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2004, 07:01 AM » |
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mr a. --
sorry you're feeling under the weather. but if you're still in stockholm, you should run, not walk, to the nearest pharmacia and pick up a little bottle of Oleum Basilium. this stuff will put (more) hair on your chest, for sure. i trust swedes on all matters scientific, and this stuff cured my head cold ailments in a matter of hours. it's a mixture of herbs, spearmint, and i think alcohol. you put it in steaming water, throw a towel over your head, and breathe deep. the fumes are unbelievable. great stuff.
i can generally play through sickness [sometimes you feel better afterward], but if i have a fever, i'm a complete bag. we had two gigs like that, and i was just atrocious. but i still played.
i think drumgun should speak with a neurologist about combining verapamil and singulair. the latter drug is primarily used for asthma, but it has strong anti-inflammatory properties that constrict blood vessels, and supposedly, this combo has been successful in people with severe migraines.
say, mr. a -- are you guys playing at bb kings in new york later this month? i thought i saw an ad for that.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 08:22 AM » |
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Man - sorry to hear about you being sick on the road. No matter what, it always sucks! When I was touring with a pretty heavy schedule, there were several times when I felt like whoever said "The show must go on" should have been shot! I've played with the flu and a fever several times but the worst pain was playing with an abscessed wisdom tooth - hurts just thinking about it.
Hope you're feeling better.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2004, 08:29 AM » |
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Sorry to hear you feel crappy. I've always had pretty good luck with Advil Cold n' Sinus (non-drowsy before playing)...chased with green or roibus tea. Not very fancy...but it works for me. The worst has got to be when you have to sneeze, or have a sneezing fit (ya know, one of those where you've almost played an entire song and your nose is, well, it's not on empty:).
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2004, 12:38 PM » |
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I got hit with a stomach flu the day of a gig a few weeks ago. I dealt with it by...
- Cutting whatever corners I could. "I only hit that china once during the set. I'm not taking it tonight."
- Asking for help. I've helped my bassist through some nasty back-injury issues, so he was happy to help me pack and set up.
- Overconcentrate. I don't remember the show, but I was told that I played really well. I streamline and try to anticipate as best I can.
- Layers of clothing. I wore a long-sleeved, button-down shirt with a tank-top underneath. The next day, my wife told me that she liked it when I pulled my shirt off between songs. I smiled, thinking that's probably when my fever peaked.
- I hid in the bathroom until the moment I had to be onstage, and I asked our singer to apologize to the other band for me for leaving before they played.
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Sometimes you just can't go on...I was the beneficiary of this a couple of years ago shortly after I started started playing again after a long (more than 5 years) hiatus. I was attending a private function featuring an excellent soul/motown band (including a horn section). At the end of the 2nd set the drummer had a serious problem breathing and could not continue. (Later turned out to be pneumonia). The lead singer literally got on the mic between sets and said "is there a drummer in the house"? I answered the call and had a blast playing the last set with these guys (mostly Staxx and Mototwn hits). Friends of mine who were also attending the event were amazed (most didn't even know I played). And, the band was very pleased cause they felt I did a good job in a very difficult circumstance.  Remember the Boy Scout Motto... Always Be Prepared  BigBill
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2004, 01:37 PM » |
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...sweating will not make you better. sweat glands do not remove viral or bacteria matter... No, but you sweat because of the high temperature, and that assists in killing the invaders. Hopefully slight before it kills you. Also sweating helps dump toxins. Still, if you're in Norway Mr. A, you should jump into a fjord. That cures most things. Permanently, sometimes, though you should be beautifully preserved... 
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2004, 02:37 PM » |
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I've never missed a show due to illness (knock wood!).
I think I've missed three in my life. Once when I had a viral infection that nearly killed me in the mid 80's - I literally could not even sit up in bed, much less play drums. Next when my daughter was sick, and I wouldn't leave her with a sitter. And most recently when my appendix decided to burst on the day of a Clarence Clemons concert. There have been times when I didn't WANT to play, but did anyway.
Man, there have been MANY times that this has happened, often having nothing to do with how well I'm feeling. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2004, 04:20 PM » |
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My hats off to you. I know what it's like doing a gig while your whole body is telling you to give it up. It's about the worst thing you can go thru.But, and there always is a but, when you go thru this and your on the road. If you can make it thru the night and get home, there usually is some one to help you gather your strength and build back up for the next night. When you on the road it's twice as bad, since I can't invision one of the guys helping you over those rough spots. They just don't have the right touch. I sure hope you feel batter soon, so you can end that tour with a bang, not a sneeze. Good Luck my friend. Keep the beat hot and the temp. coooool
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2004, 06:28 AM » |
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In over 40 years I've only missed 2 gigs. When my daughter was born, and when I ended up in the hospital. I've played sick as a dog. But the show must go on....I just try to not think about how sick I am. I just concentrate on my playing and stay away from the drugstore stuff. One "hot brandy" and go back to work. If I miss a gig I just died....... 
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2004, 09:07 AM » |
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The worst "sick gig" I remember was a musical (either "Annie" or "Oliver", I don't remember). I had such a sinus infection, with intense pain, that afterward I crashed on the couch at home. It reduced me to tears.
At the performance, I seem to remember trying to "time" my spray decongestant puffs, nose blowing, and general moaning with the sound effects and action on stage. Unfortunately, I wasn't in a pit -- I was at the foot of the stage in front of everyone.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2004, 12:17 AM » |
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wow, hope you're feeling better, mr. AC. but a positive mindset is where its at. IMHO, it truly is mind over matter when you're in the thick of the gig. but good thing you're drinking lots of water. and even if you're only exaggerating, go ahead and drink two litres of water! my doctor friend says its the best way to fight anything the body is fighting. literally like flushing it out of your cells' mitrochondria. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2004, 03:59 PM » |
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Halfway through a European tour, myself, the lighting guy and one of the riggers picked up a horrible stomach bug. Basically I had to live in the bathroom. The really bad thing was that we had to drive from Germany to Belgium and play that night.
I remember my roadie having a bucket ready just in case, but during the acoustic number I slipped off the stage and ran to the nearest bathroom. I nearly didn't make it back as I wasn't wearing my pass and the security didn't believe me when I told him I needed to get back to the stage!
I had that bug for a week and lost so much weight, but the adrenaline certainly got me through.
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heh... speaking of playing and illness, today at band practice, the bass player/lead singer was sick. while singing (screaming, growling, etc...) he was drooling and mucus-ing all over my garage floor. i had to spray it out with the hose after he left.
pretty gross, huh?
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2004, 09:03 AM » |
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I've seen you play in Cleveland Commander. You guys were good.
Sorry you were so sick Mac. It's really going around now for I'm starting to get over this flu thing and it's been 2 weeks.
There are two drummers in the cover band I play in now... it's GREAT. We switch weekends, cover for each other etc. I've never done this before and it was a little weird at first, but I have to tell you- it's the way to go. We both love it.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2004, 11:45 AM » |
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Thankfully I've only missed 2 shows in almost twenty years due to illness..... The first was about three years ago when my oldest son was sick after a minor operation. Not seriously ill, but enough to frighten the pants off me! The second was just last year, I had a really bad strep throat which brought me down with literally the worst fever I have EVER experienced. I genuinely could not get even get out of bed. My advice for playing sick? Literally, just grin and bear it! Sorry, but that's all I do! 
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