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« on: August 03, 2004, 06:30 PM » |
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Sometimes I find myself listening to and enjoying someone on a drumset who has not had any training, lessons, or even practiced more than a few hours.
Most times they're musicians who've an understanding of some other instrument, but as we all know... everyone wants to play the drums.
It may happen when nature calls... you - the drummer, have to excuse yourself for a couple of minutes, or you may be pulling into the driveway of the guitar players house to pick up your drums after a few days of rehearsal. Then you hear it, someone playing your drums in a way they've never been played before. Sure, you can pick their technique apart, perhaps chuckle at timing flaws, but there is a raw feel that blasts you away. I've experienced this a few times and have always tried to remember what I heard and apply it to my playing.
Some of the recorded examples of this type phenomenon would be:
Stevie Wonder (playing anything on drums)
Jimmy Miller...The Stones engineer on Beggars Banquet, playing drums on ("You Can't Always Get What You Want")
Paul McCartney (Back In The USSR)
Richard Manuel...The Band (Rag Mama Rag, Promised Land, Jemima Surrender. etc.)
John David Souther... Souther, Hillman, Furay (Trouble In Paradise)
You folks got any others?
My typing fingers, both of them, are tired and I've got spider mites on my tomatos. Time to release the praying mantid.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2004, 07:25 PM » |
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I know exactly what you mean. For my money, McCartney plays a killer little fill at the end of "Jet".
Rob Hyman (of Hooters fame) on Joan Osborne's "One Of Us". Good, but tremendously unsteady in spots.
I think Lenny Kravitz rates as a drummer due to his groove and great time("Are You Gonna Go My Way") Also listen to his Ringo feel on "Believe"...and his time is solid as a rock!
Pete Townshend, but I've only heard him on demos.
I like him though!
Andy Partridge of XTC on Dukes Of Stratosphears' "Pale And Precious"
Prince. I think I can pick him out by how he rushes the bass drum (Let's Go Crazy)
I like this thread. How about lead singers who once were drummers, like Steve Perry, Peter Gabriel, Steve Tyler, etc.?
Dan
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2004, 07:31 PM » |
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XTC? I didn't think anyone was aware of those guys, you're talking my language.
That's cool that you mentioned Lenny. Did you know that he started out as a drummer? His 2 biggest influences were in this order: 1. Stevie Wonder 2. Ringo (what's his name,)
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2004, 07:49 PM » |
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Saw Bo Didley live, and he switched spots with the drummer, without missing a beat. Proceed to do a killer live drum solo... not Neil Peart, but very fun! They switched places again without a pause. Quite awesome.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2004, 08:32 PM » |
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I saw a little clip of Yngwie Malmsteen recently just killing on double bass. Very aggresive and quite loued. He had quite a touch.
I can see how demanding he is from his musicians.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2004, 09:01 AM » |
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Prince. I think I can pick him out by how he rushes the bass drum (Let's Go Crazy)
On Prince's early albums (before he hit it big). He played drums on everything, and is a monster player! What I heard, he just flat out smoked the drums. Of course what he was playing then is a little more like what is on his newest CD. Old school funk. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2004, 10:27 AM » |
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On Prince's early albums (before he hit it big). He played drums on everything... The track Tambourine is probably my favorite. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2004, 08:13 AM » |
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Hank Williams III is reportedly a good metal drummer. I've heard that Nashville studio master Eddie Bayers wasn't originally a drummer by trade, but a piano player.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 11:59 AM » |
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John Fogerty did all of the drums on his "Center Field" album..............
He should have gotten a real drummer.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2004, 01:43 PM » |
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If I remember correctly, he used Prairie Prince's studio, and I guess his drum set up as well. I wonder why he didn't use him? I think his drumming was only adequate. Considering some of things he has said about many drummers including Doug Clifford and the great Mitch Mitchell........he hits the cymbals like a girl. There, I said it!
Just kidding!
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2004, 01:51 PM » |
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I think his drumming was only adequate. Considering some of things he has said about many drummers including Doug Clifford and the great Mitch Mitchell........ Fogerty has made "comments" about Mitch Mitchell's drumming? Where does he come off being able to make comments about anybody's drumming? You're right, his drumming on Center Field was adequate, at best. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2004, 02:09 PM » |
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Lots of drummers, actually. He is @$%# near a genius and has one of THE voices in rock-n-roll, but if I can find the interview, which I recall was done for the late AUDIO magazine, you may get the same "control freak" vibe that I got.
I think that his being a bit hands-on(in a Prince kind of way) is what got CCR as far as they did.
His songwriting ain't too shabby either.
Dan
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2004, 02:16 PM » |
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Lots of drummers, actually. He is d**n near a genius and has one of THE voices in rock-n-roll, but if I can find the interview, which I recall was done for the late AUDIO magazine, you may get the same "control freak" vibe that I got.
I think that his being a bit hands-on(in a Prince kind of way) is what got CCR as far as they did.
His songwriting ain't too shabby either.
Dan
Certainly no complaints about him in general. CCR is one of my favorite all-time bands. He obviously is extremely talented. just not on drums! I saw Fogerty a couple of years ago with Kenny Aronoff on drums and it was a really great show. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2004, 06:12 PM » |
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I like all drummers/musicians that don't suck.  |
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2004, 07:32 AM » |
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my band, Deep Echo, frequently features guest percussionists (mainly be cause i want to play didj more often). these percussionist we get, most of the time have never played a drum in their lives. we like the fresh sound. beginner's don't really try to play "right", they just try to fit our music.
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