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Author Topic: Big audition. So what do I do if I get an offer?  (Read 2337 times)
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« on: August 12, 2002, 09:18 PM »

Hey folks...

I just finished an audition with a singer who is the offspring of a very famous singer/songwriter. The person with whom I had the audition is signed with three albums. It would be as the live drummer, doing local shows and occasional touring. Maybe I'd be involved when it came time to do a future new album, maybe not. But that would be a couple years down the road anyway.

The thing is, if I were offered the gig, I'd have to make a significant life change/musical change decision. So I'm wondering if you guys can offer any tips as to what kind of things I should ask if I get the nod.

Is it common to be paid for rehearsals, and is it okay or not cool to ask? The singer does normal shows (paying on average $150/gig) and also benefit shows. Does "benefit show" mean I don't get paid? Should I ask about long-term gigging plans? Any other questions I should ask? Mostly I'm concerned about money issues, because I'd have to give up my money band in order to do this. The gigs with this singer seem to be fairly stable for the next couple months at least, whereas my current band keeps going indefinitely and makes pretty good money.

Hmmm... well, I guess I'm sort of rambling on here. The singer has been auditioning drummers most of last week and is doing more still this week. So there's a big pool of players I'm up against. But I'd just like to be prepared before I leap into anything.

btw, I'll let you know who the person is after I get a phone call. Wink
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2002, 10:20 PM »

wow ... sounds like a nice little gig.  unfortunately im of no help as i have no remotely similar experience Smiley  but i think you said yourself in a previous post what the answer is.  to sum up, play what makes you happy.  we know the money gig makes you happy.  would this singer gig?  
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2002, 07:38 AM »

Hey sidereal glad to hear you might get this job, here are somethings that I take into account when I'm in these situations.  

1.  How big is this singer, or better yet how big is his label

2. How big are the venues you will be playing

3. How much drumming are you going to be doing (1 hour, 2 hours, etc.)

4. How much is everyone else getting paid!!

You need to take all these thing into an account, you don't want to be getting paid $200 a show for playing 3 hours at sold out venues while the singer and everyone else is getting big bucks.   It's great to get a big gig, but business is business I love playing drums, but money talks and ...well you know the rest.

Good luck and Congrats. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2002, 07:44 AM »

Sounds awesome sidereal!  On the benefit issue... This usually means the band doesn't get paid by the people holding the event, but it is totally cool to put a HUGE tip jar at the front of the stage.  Hope this helps, and good luck man!!   Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2002, 10:23 AM »

Thanks everyone...

Good list there looney. Smiley Yeah, label is small as are the venues, but occassionally there's a big show, like an opening slot for Joe Cocker at an arena show last month in Germany. (which reminds me, I should ask about traveling costs, but I believe that they are covered. Hmm, what about mileage for in-state gigs?) Your No. 4 question is a good one. I will ask that (if, of course, I get an offer).

 Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2002, 11:05 AM »

Don't worry, you have nothing to worry about...I have plenty of faith you WON'T get it.

Prove me wrong and make me happy.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2002, 12:13 AM »

Don't worry, you have nothing to worry about...I have plenty of faith you WON'T get it.

Prove me wrong and make me happy.

OK... I got the offer! Smiley

I'm surprised actually, cause she auditioned like 10 drummers. Nice ego boost. Smiley Anyway, I'll follow the advice you guys gave when I call her back.

She's Shana Morrison, daughter of Van.

AllMusic's got her entry here:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B4jjx7i71g75r

I hope this means I get free Guiness pints at the Irish pub across from my apartment. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2002, 07:36 AM »

WOW Side congrats sounds like a great gig, I know you will make us all proud!! (except for felix, lol)

Remember you deserve to be there, you hard work has paid off.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2002, 09:44 AM »

Wow, who did you have to blow to get that gig?  LOL  Just kidding.

Anyways great news.  Sounds like you are well on your way to becoming a touring pro.

Have fun and keep us posted.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2002, 09:47 AM »

Congratulations Jim!

Just don't forget to wear your Drummer Cafe t-shirt when you do those televised gigs! LOL
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2002, 01:20 PM »

LOL...I have faith he will kicked out in a week or two.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2002, 01:22 PM »

Have you seen the picture of shana??  

I say side goes for it!!  lol.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2002, 03:32 PM »

 Grin  Grin  Grin

Felix, you kill me man!

Thanks everyone. Rat, them's kind words... and yeah, it's something I'm concerned about. But I'll go for it. btw, thanks also for the drum kit reading book suggestion.

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2002, 05:25 AM »

I bet your gf is secretly jealous of your success!

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2002, 06:37 AM »

Can't really add anything here- just congrats.

Was wondering- in covering the tunes she already has recoreded- how much freedom will you have to put your own expressions into the music- or will you basically have to memorize the drums as recorded?
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2002, 06:48 AM »

Congratulations, Sidereal!   Grin

This is really great news!  Good luck!

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2002, 08:11 AM »

Will you have to play "brown eyed girl"...we used to play a hard rocking version of that.
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2002, 08:21 AM »

Congratulations!!  Sounds like you made it to the next step in becoming a "real" musician Smiley  Good luck.  My only advice is to not be like MLB Players and hold out for more $.  Take this gig and recognize the other benefits besides $$$.  As long as you can support yourself, you have a great opportunity to expose your talents to a whole new world of industry types who can recognize talent and justly reward it.  
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2002, 09:20 AM »

Wow Jim, that is incredible news!!  Good luck man!!   Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2002, 12:56 PM »

Sounds exciting. How did you audition? Did she send you a tape or something to learn? How are her songs? Any good? What kind of music?
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