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« on: August 14, 2004, 05:21 PM »

I just had the laser eye surgery to correct my vision!!!! Before it was done I couldn't see anything! I had coke bottle glasses! Three days later, I can make out the smallest writing from a distance and it is getting better and better as time goes along.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2004, 08:31 PM »

You know what ... lasik scares me!

I would love to have the treatment done, but knowing that there is no one alive who has lived 40 years after having lasik ... makes my skin crawl.

If I was blind or only had 10-20 years left to live (who really knows that?), then I might give it a go. But I'm 40 years old, and the thought of being one of the "accidents" that do happen fromt he procedure, or have something go wrong in 10 years ... well, I just can't get myself to take that risk.

Maybe someday.

I'm very happy for you ... and pleased to hear that you've had such positive results. Get back to me in 20 years and let me know how your eyes are. I might be willing to give it a try then.  Cool
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2004, 11:30 PM »

**whew**

Thanks for saying that, Bart. I'm standing right in front of you in the 'chicken line.'

I'm glad to hear the procedure went well for chfeil--and nothing but the best of health to you! But all of the statistics and all of the reassurance doesn't mean anythig. It's my luck that I would be the one case that went wrong.

I have diabetes and asthma, I don't need to invite more to go wrong with this body.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2004, 06:05 AM »

i'm considering it.  i can see somewhere around three inches without my glasses and it's getting worse.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2004, 06:28 AM »

You know what ... lasik scares me!

I would love to have the treatment done, but knowing that there is no one alive who has lived 40 years after having lasik ... makes my skin crawl.

If I was blind or only had 10-20 years left to live (who really knows that?), then I might give it a go. But I'm 40 years old, and the thought of being one of the "accidents" that do happen fromt he procedure, or have something go wrong in 10 years ... well, I just can't get myself to take that risk.

Maybe someday.

I'm very happy for you ... and pleased to hear that you've had such positive results. Get back to me in 20 years and let me know how your eyes are. I might be willing to give it a try then.  Cool

Bart, let me add my 'me too' to your post.  While I am near-sighted, and now becoming far-sighted as well (happens alot once you are past 50) I am making do with Progressive lenses(new age bifocals) but they have their limitations. I know a number of people who have had the surgery and the results are mixed. Some think it is the greatest, though they admit they don't know what side effects there might be in 20 years or so, and I have met a few who say that if they had to make the decision again they would not do it.  That is  enough to keep me from doing it.  It is totally elective and I have never had an MD tell me to consider it. The only ones that seem to push it are the docs who perform the surgery.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2004, 07:35 AM »

Of course, the reason I don't go for it is that my particular problem - severe astigmatism - can't be fixed by laser surgery. Not a lack of courage. Dear me no. Perish the thought. If it wasn't so, I would naturally be first in the queue. I mean. Stands to reason.

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2004, 08:34 AM »

For a long time I did not want to have it done. I'm 32 and have been wearing glasses since 2nd grade. My prescription was minus 12. A couple of weeks ago, I was driving home from work in the rain and my contact popped out and I was blind in one eye. I was by myself in the car, so I did not worry. Though I thought to myself, if my unborn baby was in the car with me (my wife is 8 months pregnant) and something happened to her that needed immediate attention, I wouldn't be able to see as well. I want to be there for her 100%. Drumming wise, playing live I was getting really tired of sweat going into my eyes and moving my contacts.

So I looked into everyplace, found out as much data on every doctor in the tri state area, checked the Secretary of State web sites for law suites. Everything pointed to Dr. Dello Russo in this area. He's the chairman for standardizing practices on the Lasik. I met with one on one. He went over everything. I told him all my concerns, he made me feel at ease.

So the day I was getting it done, I was nervous. The procedure was a success. My eyes were really sensitive to light. I went home and went to sleep for 12 hours (they give you valium to help you relax) I woke up at 2 am and I felt great!

Now Four days later...I woke up this morning and I was amazed that I could read the "SHARP" logo on the TV. It's not 100%, but it is getting there everyday.

Regarding the astigmatism, chk out this link.
http://www.njeye.com/html/custom_cornea.html
I didnt do much research on it just b/c.

Any other stories?
Bart, 20 yrs from now, I will let you know... lol!
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2004, 08:39 AM »

my best friend just had it done. he went to the top doctor in atlanta (Emory University), but the  first time it didn't correcct his vision enough and had to have it done a second time (he was a special case), but now he can see better. He's not 100% but it takes a few weeks for his vision to restore fully.  
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2004, 02:50 PM »

My older brother had the procedure done. He now has perfect vision in one eye, but is now completely blind now in the other.

His experience made me rethink my desire to have the procedure. Once your eyesight is gone, its gone! Not worth the risk, in my opinion.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2004, 07:34 PM »

i would LOVE more than anything to be able to wake up and see perfectly, and im not decided on the topic.  then again, im only 16. if i was gonna have it done, i would probably do so around 25, and by then lasik may be MUCH better
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2004, 06:25 AM »

My wife had the Lasek surgery(with the EK on the end; a little different procedure).  It is more involved, and the thin 'skin' (epithelium) of the eye must be scraped away after loosening with an alcohol solution.  Then after the actual laser part of the surgery, the 'skin' is replaced and an extra large protective contact is put over the eye.  The lasek surgery was recommended for her since she has a severe astigmatism. It has a longer, more painful recovery than lasik.  Her vision immediately improved, but it continued to get better in the next 3-4 weeks.  Now, she can see small print at long distances better than I can with contacts.  She highly recommends it, although the first week was a little rough.

She talked to a lot of people beforehand and went to a highly regarded local surgeon who has done the procedure many times.  He cost more than these guys who do it for $500 for both eyes (hers was $3000--lasek costs more Shocked) but he was very thorough in his explanation of the procedure and followed up afterwards.

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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2004, 07:28 AM »

It seems like everyone I know who had lasik (my sister got it about 3-4 years ago) is wearing glasses again!

I'm not chicken, but I can buy a ton of glasses and contacts with that money.

My wife got a thing in the mail where there is this corrective contact lens out now where you wear it at night when you sleep.  When you get up in the morning you pop them out and see clear all day!  Now how weird is that?
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2004, 07:37 AM »

I too will nest in the "chicken" coop on the surgery.... Wink

Felix, as odd as it may sound, I heard about this method a while ago also.

Here is a brief link on the apparently valid procedure.

http://www.allaboutvision.com/contacts/orthok.htm
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2004, 11:18 AM »

My wife got a thing in the mail where there is this corrective contact lens out now where you wear it at night when you sleep.  When you get up in the morning you pop them out and see clear all day!  Now how weird is that?

Sounds more gross than weird  Tongue

My significant other wants to get lasik and figures she should have one eye at a time done...  Huh
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2004, 12:08 PM »

I'll add my name to the list of those staying away... at least for now.  

I'm very glad to hear of anybody who has had good luck with this type of surgery.  

A friend of mine had the surgery a couple of years ago and wound up having problems with seeing "halos" around bright lights.  

Since I can sit here all day at my PC without using glasses (obviously, I'm near-sighted), I'll forego the procedure, um, maybe forever.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2004, 09:52 AM »

ewww, yeah. color me supah chicken on this procedure. i would also love to rid myself of all my eye probs, but there's too much still left to chance, plus i've got the astigmatism, too.

i hate glasses. but they're the safest way for me to see better right now. i'll also wait another 10 or so years.

but lucky for all those it works for!
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2004, 12:20 PM »

I had it done 3 years ago and I would do it again in a heartbeat. I havn't heard of anyone who has had problems until this thread. I live in Utah and had it done by the Eye Instuitute of Utah. They were very informative and I had checkups for 1 year after the procedure. All of that was included in the cost. It was one of the BEST things I have ever done. But I also know a bunch of people who are still skeptical about it. If anyone asked me about it I would say Do It.. You wont be sorry. Just make sure you go to a clinic that has the right credentials and check with people who have had it done at their place. Shocked
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2005, 06:53 AM »

6 month update:
Going from 20/200 (yes I had coke bottles) my eye sight is now 20/15 in my right eye and 20/20 in my left.  It has been an amazing experience.  Do your research, find a good doctor and it will change your life. No more searching for my glasses in the middle of the night….  No more forgetting to take contacts out before going to sleep and most important no contacts moving around when I play live due to sweat.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2005, 12:00 PM »

I had it done.  It's amazing.
But it was definitely the scariest thing I've ever done <scarier than jumping out of an airplane or swimming in the ocean with barracudas and sharks>.  I balled like a baby. The smell of burning eyeball sent me over the edge.

Others I know endured this much more bravely.

Could I do it again?  I don't know.  But it sure is wonderful to be able to see and I'm glad I did it.  

Oh: one common side effect of the surgery which has continued---serious dry eye.  I buy Bion Tears.  For me, the preservative free moisure drops work the best.  They are expensive, though.  I've also been prescribed drops that are supposed to help my eyes start producing tears again.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2005, 12:47 PM »

"one common side effect of the surgery which has continued---serious dry eye"

I had dry eyes for about three months after the surgery..... Once in a while I put the "Bion" drops in.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2005, 03:34 PM »

I'm encouraged and excited with your results chfeil; most excellent.

Perhaps I have the surgery done someday, but for now, I'll have to keep up with stylish eyeglasses.
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2005, 02:59 PM »

Did it 3 years ago - went from 20/200 to 20/20 in both eyes.  BTW - I am 52 years old.  It takes some getting used to as your vision "drifts" for the first month or so after the operation - as in, some days you have 20/20 - some days back to the reading glasses.  But it set in after a month.  For about 3 months I had "halos" while looking at other people's head lights driving at night - but that went away too.  Now - no glasses or contacts for the first time since I was 4 years old!!!  A great investment - the operation does not hurt and be sure to get a good opthamologist.  Mine is head of opthamology at the Medical University of South Carolina and learned how to do the operation from one of the guys that invented lasik.  Best health care dollars you can spend.
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2005, 09:04 AM »

I had Lasik done about 6 years ago. It corrected my vision and the severe astigmatism I had.
I'd do it again in a heart beat. It really made a difference in my life.

I have heard people with problems after Lasik, but EVERY one of them went to a opthamologist for the procedure and NOT a corneal surgeon!

The difference is like going to a general practicioner for open heart surgery. Corneal surgeons work with corneas daily. The opthamologist attends the same school to learn the LASIK procedure, but doesn't have near the expertise with the hands on part.

Just my 2 cents.

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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2005, 01:32 PM »

I would'nt do it. Actually,I've worn glasses since the 6th grade..nearsightd. Today,at 52 I hardly wear glasses at all anymore except for driving. I guess over time,my eyeball is getting closer to where it is supposed to be in shape. Had a friend have the surgery 6 or 8 years ago. He's not only back in glasses....he's having ttrouble with his vision. I'm not "electing" to go under a knife/laser,etc. period. However,hope it works for you all.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2006, 12:51 PM »

update: After a year and a half, my right eye is 20/17 and my left is 20/15
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2006, 08:55 PM »

knowing that there is no one alive who has lived 40 years after having lasik ... makes my skin crawl.


That is comforting(family member had lasik). Well I'm hoping that this isn't true (not that i'm saying your lying).
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2006, 08:58 PM »

update: After a year and a half, my right eye is 20/17 and my left is 20/15

That's great news! But, do get back to me in 30 to 40 years won't you.  Wink

If I didn't have a beautiful wife and child, I might go for it ... but the risk is too great for me, even with all the positive results being reported. Perhaps I'll change my mind someday.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2006, 12:10 PM »

(Not that this is going to change anyone's mind about this decision)

My wife had RK surgery (which is an incisional, a.k.a. scalpel, alternative to the laser surgery) some ten years ago. Since she worked for the ophthalmic surgeon at the time, it was FREE.  Grin
(Granted, had it cost us, she wouldn't have had it done; we are poor folk!).  However, her vision is still perfect to this day. (Oh, and she's been an insulin-dependant diabetic since she was a year old, for those of you with similar concerns)

At the time she had her RK surgery done, LASIK wasn't even approved in the U.S. yet (not until 1999).  However, radial incisional surgery for vision correction has been around in various forms since the late 1800s! Although approval in this country is always decades behind anywhere else, vision correction surgery is well past the period of "let's wait and see what happens."  We trust much newer technologies to heart surgeries and all manner of other important procedures.

If any of you are holding back on LASIK/LASEK because of possible long-term ramifications, there are other older options that will give you the same or similar advantages, and are old enough to have had decades of history behind them.

More information on the history of vision correction can be found here: http://www.eyeinfo.com/lasikwhatisrefsurg.html

As always, it's up to you what you're comfortable with.  (You chickens!  Wink )
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2006, 08:16 PM »

My wife had the lasik surgery, and her vision is perfect. EXCEPT that she has lost the ability to read fine print by holding it close to her eye. Has to use reading glasses.  Nevertheless, she's happy with it.
   Me?  Wouldn't do it. I went with her to the eye doc, read the info and all the waivers she signed (man, she waived every claim known to man and then some!).  I wouldn't touch it.  To me, the substantial risk (blindness) outweighs the benefit (not wearing glasses).   Simple as that.  
   But it's a free country, baby: rock on.
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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2006, 10:51 AM »

A friend of mine works for a very promininent vision correction specialist here in Chattanooga, TN.

She is one of the wealthiest people in our city and she was once featured on 60 Minutes, where she was awarded the honor of "Best Doctor in America"...so this isn't some quack we're talking about (of course, that term is subjective).

She does LASIK surgery know, but she used to do RK back in the nineties.  The owner of the company that I work for had this doctor perform RK surgery on her about ten or fifteen years ago, and now her corneas are shaped like washboards.  Her vision is degrading and she can never wear contacts again.
And this is surgery performed by the "Best Doctor in America" (according to 60 Minutes, anyway).
I am thankful everyday that I have God-given (nearly) perfect vision, but I don't think I would ever go under the knife (or laser, or whatever) for vision correction.  Unless, of course, I was blind anyway, and they promised me I could see again...
Just my $.02 on this matter...
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