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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2004, 06:34 AM »

Really... you don't need anything except a light touch.

There is this old timer that plays jazz here in Chagrin Falls.  He's gotta be at least 75.  Anyways.  He just lightly plays his Leedy Ludwigs while people horse down their over priced  filets, they don't even bat an eyelash while they yak away either.  He's a great player man. Probably been playing twice as long as I've been alive.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2004, 09:27 PM »

To me, as a bassist (and these remarks pertain primarily to jazz, but I think do hold true for music in general), when drummers are playing too loud it's not because of a technical problem or an equipment problem, it's because they aren't really listening to what's going on. They aren't playing with ME (and the rest of the band), they are playing to some agenda or with some band in their head. Because if you are LISTENING to the band you are going to play at a level that you can HEAR the band.

Granted, when playing in a jazz trio there's little excuse for over playing (volume wise.) This is mainly because the general stage volume is such that the drummer can actually hear him/herself easily amongst the rest of the musicians.

More often than not, this is NOT what's happening in common pop/rock/(insert electrified music genre here) type situations. Most drummers find themselves surronded by stacks of screaming Marshalls or towering, thunderous Ampegs set to "11."

Stage volume is normally very high and unless the production is large and you have a full range monitoring system aimed right at your head, you must play loud just to hear yourself.

It's virtually impossible to play quietly when you're being driven into nonexistence volume wise.

If you cant hear yourself, you cant play.


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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2004, 10:37 PM »

Well...we played last night at Borders book store. I used my Vader Hotrods, threw a towel over the snare and stuck some PostIT notes on the cymbals -- then just played with a very light touch...and it was perfect.

It took a little while to get used to it but soon we were all in the pocket. Some of the fast single-strokes (WIPE OUT) were tough to mellow out but I managed. Using more fingers than than arms helps.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2004, 02:25 PM »

dynamics exercises are a good thing, too. play 8ths or 16ths for a certain length of time or bars, then work to gradually reduce the volume without increasing/decreasing your speed. then do the same thing in reverse, bringing the volume back up. it's hard and tiring, but good for control.
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2004, 11:20 AM »

Oxford,

You say that you don't hit that hard, yet your bandmates need you softer.  Perhaps you hit harder than you think.  I've doen a lot of sound-reinforcement gigs where two drummers played on the same kit.  It's amazing how much louder one can be than the other.  -but that's not my point.  

My point follows, and it may not apply to you, but it's worth a read:

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It is POSSIBLE that you tense up a little when you play, which always causes one to be louder (on any instrument.)  I see this constantly in the studio, even with some very famous guys who aren't studio pros.   -they will give me a sound check, then once the red light goes on, their volume doubles.

after a few takes, once they settle in and are feeling more comfortable, the volume drops down again.

More importantly, the groove also improves once the drummer relaxes.

So,  again this may not apply to you, but it's worth thinking about your total body dynamic as you practice.  Really work on staying loose, and having "inner calm."  This as if you were playing underwater, all movements fluid and slow.  effortless.

don't let your body lean forward, keap your head back and flaoting over your torso.  Think like  a martial artist: Always relaxed and in balance.

Perhaps examine your set-up from an ergonomic standpoint:  make sure all of the kit is easy to reach without having to move your torso too much.

I'll never forget the first time I recorded Omar Hakim. His set-up and the way he holds his body is like poetry. Just as described above.  Effortless.

This will have all sorts of benefits, no matter what skill level you are at, and will certainly help you play softer with a better pocket.
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