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« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2004, 08:21 AM » |
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Near the end of Layla, the acoustic version, there is a stray tambourine tap (sorry, don't know perc guy's name) that sounds OK until you see the MTV Unplugged video of the performance. It occurs just as "darlin' won't you ease my worried mind" begins to ritard. On the video, the percussionist is looking away from Clapton and misses Eric's head cue for the ritard.
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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2004, 12:22 PM » |
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Shame on you Dad!! They're not called ritards any more, they're called special tempo changes.  |
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2004, 12:26 PM » |
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Aren't they holding the 10th annual Special Drumoff at GC this year?  |
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2004, 12:44 PM » |
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Shame on you Dad!! They're not called ritards any more, they're called special tempo changes. Yeah, just call me Mr. Politically INcorrect. It's a sign of my advancing age. That reminds me...I knew a few chick singers...rather, female vocalists...that had special tempo changes. |
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« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2004, 09:31 AM » |
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I have a live video of the Who performing Tommy, with Simon Philips on the drums.
In one of the songs there is a shot of him playing a fill, when he gets one of his sticks caught on the bottom of a tom hoop on his upstroke.
Yes! I thought I was the only one who ever saw that, I think the song was Sparks/Amazing Journey, and when he gets hung up, it is like Whoah! even Simon?!  |
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« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2004, 09:48 AM » |
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I really must say how cool it is to hear even famous drummers make little mistakes sometimes. I remember hearing Ian Paice once say that the overall 'feel' of a song is far more important than just getting everything perfect.
a few of my favorite mistakes are:
The beginning of the Steve Miller tune "Keep On Rockin Me Baby".
The sloppy cowbell in Pink Floyd's "Pigs: Three Different Ones"
The very rushed punches in Guns & Roses "Paradise City".
The early drum hit on 3 instead of 4 in the middle of Cream's "Tales Of Brave Ulysses".
The uncertain feel of the beat at the beginning of Humble Pie's "30 Days In The Hole" as though Jerry Shirley was trying to follow a click track and got away from it a little bit.
The beautiful but obvious bass drum pedal squeaks on Led Zeppelin's "The Ocean", or "All Of My Love".
The quietly dropped/fumbled stick at the beginning of Donovan's "Mellow Yellow".
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« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2004, 11:21 AM » |
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Bon Jovi's "I'll Be There For You" in the last chorus Tico Torres rushes the daylights out the sextuplets he's playing on his snare drum. I can't believe they kept it.
In Sting's "Fortress Around Your Heart" it sounds like (I think it was, although I'm not sure) Omar Hakim starts the second verse playing back beat rim knocks only to pull back in the second measure to his half-time groove like he forgot where he was for a second.
My all time favorite "added part" is on the end of Toto's "Rosanna." Steve Lukather plays this incredible triplet guitar lick and I swear it sounds like somebody is yelling "Whooooooo." Maybe it was Jeff caught up in the moment. I like to think that it was.
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« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2004, 11:26 AM » |
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Anybody ever listen to the fade out of Sting's "When We Dance?" I'm willing to bet that Vinnie Coliauta was sure the song would be completely faded out before he slammed out two eighth notes that are so far out of context that it had to be joke.
Same thing on Toto's "Pamela." Jeff plays a ridiculous fill and Lukather ends a real crazy note bend on one. It really sounds like a train wreck. :0)
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« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2004, 04:55 PM » |
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No, it just starts on the "and" of "3" - it's an almost note-for-note homage to the drum intro on Little Richard's Keep a Knockin' .
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2004, 06:36 AM » |
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Bonham on 'Stairway to Heaven' when he comes in on the toms before the guitar solo. He's late. Lets see if I can explain it......
I thought this was delibarate. I also noticed that the tempo slows down a lot for a couple of beat after this, then picks up for the fill going into the solo. But that's definately deliberate. And I can't believe I only just noticed how the start of Start Me Up is screwed up. But even so, it's still brilliant. |
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« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2004, 09:24 AM » |
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Also, i guess it's not necessarially a mistake, but on Zeppelin's "Since I've Been Loving You," there is a sort of squeaking noise that i can only guess is Bonham's bass drum pedal coming back. I'm not even sure what it is though. Maybe I'm the only one that hears it.
I love that tune, and I think the squeaking is REALLY cool. |
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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2004, 02:16 PM » |
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it's not drums, but on Deep Purple's Made In Japan album, Ritchie actually screws up the guitar riff to Smoke On The Water! The crowd is already clapping along, so he repeats the mistake, gives a couple of guitar "chick chick chick"s and then starts the riff over. It ends up being such a cool way to play Smoke On The Water, and sounds great, but he has been quoted as saying that was a mistake.
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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2005, 09:57 PM » |
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Manu Katche on Salsbury Hill off of Secret World Live. He comes back late on a fill....
I can't talk about this anymore, Sorry Manu!!
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« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2005, 08:06 AM » |
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it's not drums, but on Deep Purple's Made In Japan album, Ritchie actually screws up the guitar riff to Smoke On The Water! The crowd is already clapping along, so he repeats the mistake, gives a couple of guitar "chick chick chick"s and then starts the riff over. It ends up being such a cool way to play Smoke On The Water, and sounds great, but he has been quoted as saying that was a mistake.
I always thought that sounded like a mistake, but was never sure. |
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« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2005, 08:43 PM » |
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The drummer for chevelle sends a stick flying in the newest video "Vitamin R" don't know his name offhand. It was unintentional.
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