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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2004, 10:08 AM »

I heard Jeff Porcaro do some "Motown Style" licks when he recorded with the B52's and to me it was sheer brilliance...
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2004, 05:02 PM »

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Motown Fill
A classic drum fill played on numerous hits. It involves the Snare and mounted Tom. There are a number of ways to play this, but here's standard ...

Play a Six Stroke Roll (aka Tap Six) with the first (accented) note on the Tom, the diddles and two accents on the Snare, followed by another Tom hit on the AND of the beat.

It looks like this ...


To get the right (loose) feel, you need to listen to some recordings to get the correct phrasing. It can also be played with more of a triplet pulse, but this is the standard approach. Obviously one can put the accents on any voice (Tom or Snare) that they want to create variations, but this is the basic fill.

I would consider this fill a MUST for the professional drummer; it should be part of your vocabulary.


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what our newly minted member, Billy Ward, calls the "27th rudiment".  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2004, 05:07 PM »

Here's an audio example of the lick Bart just posted, played by drummer Gene Lake, who has DEFINITELY done his homework on what constitutes classic Motown drumming:

http://www.keithcronin.com/grooves/would_i_lie.mp3

Dated? Maybe. Perfect? Absolutely!

gene, what a groovin' freak!

but hey why not go straight to the source?  Wink

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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2004, 01:02 PM »

There are a number of fills that I would place in the "dated fill" catagory ... but not in a negative way.

Motown Fill
A classic drum fill played on numerous hits. It involves the Snare and mounted Tom. There are a number of ways to play this, but here's standard ...

Play a Six Stroke Roll (aka Tap Six) with the first (accented) note on the Tom, the diddles and two accents on the Snare, followed by another Tom hit on the AND of the beat.

It looks like this ...


To get the right (loose) feel, you need to listen to some recordings to get the correct phrasing. It can also be played with more of a triplet pulse, but this is the standard approach. Obviously one can put the accents on any voice (Tom or Snare) that they want to create variations, but this is the basic fill.

I would consider this fill a MUST for the professional drummer; it should be part of your vocabulary.



I believe you hear this (or a subtle variation of this) done about 15 times in Phil Collins's "I Missed Again"!... always sounds great though
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