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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2002, 05:19 PM »

Yes you can!  Remember!  Chops, solos, and fills, are for drummers.  The pocket is for records and gainfully employed live entertainers who want to stay gainfully employed! Wink
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2002, 08:42 PM »

Chops are great to utilize.  Like someone said about accenting the beats and music, that is an excellent use for them.  Otherwise just doing banaza on the drums isn't that appealing.
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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2002, 10:24 PM »

Chops are great to utilize.  Like someone said about accenting the beats and music, that is an excellent use for them.  Otherwise just doing on the drums isn't that appealing.  Huh

"Chops are fun, worth working on, makes drumming more interesting, and essential for some kinds of music.  You must be able to apply these chops without losing the pocket.  That's my rule, anyway."

"Back to the original question...I'm gathering that "chops" refers to technical ability, while "pocket" refers to musicality--how well you can play exactly what the song needs. Am I on the right track?"  

"I think it's Ironic how when one is young you tend to think it's all about chops, but as the years pass you by you reallize that's it's groove that gets you the call back,"

Well that pretty much sums it up for me!  I've played just about every style of music professionally for 17 years and I'm still workin' on how to keep good time and figure out how to enhance the song with tasteful fills.  Problem is...I usually figure out what I should have done after the record is in the stores.  I guess you never really learn how to play the drums, you just keep workin on them.

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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2002, 05:50 AM »

Pocket is where it's at.

My favorite Nashville session drummer is Eddie Bayers. After Larrie Londin's death he assumed the role of most-recorded drummer in town, at some points being on almost every song in the Top Ten simultaneously!

But he's not your typical Weckl/Vinnie/Gadd chopsmonster. He was a piano player that switched to drums in his early twenties or late teens (foggy on my history), and I've never heard him play anything faster than a mid-tempo 16th note. Ever.

But he makes songs sound SOOOOOO good. That's what it's about. And evidently many artists and producers agree - that's why he's the first-call guy.

There are styles of music that require significant chops, particularly in instrumental music. But for the most part, our gig is to make songs sound good, to make bands sound good, and to make singers feel good. Sounds like you've got the right stuff. Anything you add at this point is icing on the cake. Good luck!

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