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ILikeDrums
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« on: November 01, 2004, 07:15 PM »

I've considered buying microphones, a mixer, and some good headphones so I can listen to myself practice through microphones when I practice. Does anyone do this? Does it offer a good perspective to hear yourself from? Would it even be worth it? I'd obviously also use the equipment for recording as well, but that's an entirely different topic. I'm just wondering if anybody regularly practices like this ever.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2004, 10:14 PM »

I honestly cant see the point unless youre using iso headphones and are trying to get the sound level in your ears down to a safer level.  

You wont be hearing them from audience perspective that way.  And unless youre recording with the same mics in the same room, shoot, even if that is the case, you wont be hearing them from a final recording standpoint.  
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2004, 05:38 PM »

I guess my thinking on it is it would indeed allow me to control the sound of the drums to a safer one. I would think that it would also just allow me to hear my drums from a different perspective. I could experiment with microphone positioning and, while it would'nt be the same sound as heard on a final recording, it WOULD at least give me ideas for recording, wouldn't it?
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2004, 06:02 PM »

I would think that it would also just allow me to hear my drums from a different perspective.

Unless you had some pricy noise canceling headphones, the natural sound of the drums and cymbals would leak through and obscure most of what you'd be hearing from the mics.

Grab an inexpensive digital recorder like the Fostex MR-8. That way, you will be able to do the mic position experiments that you're after and really hear what the mics are hearing.

In related news, for those that dig Shure mics, there's a $10 rebate on their site here http://www.shure.com/rebate/.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2004, 05:09 PM »

I honestly cant see the point unless youre using iso headphones and are trying to get the sound level in your ears down to a safer level.  

It is quite interesting how different the sound is when running through mics and a mixer.  I personally enjoy having the setup with the ability to record at any time.  

If you're interested, my setup includes:
Audix D1 snare (picks up the hi-hat well too)
Audix D6 bass (on a gooseneck stand)
3 Audix ADX-90 (they're mounted on the toms but pick up my cymbals very well)
Occasionally I set up a generic condenser for an overhead, but I find that it generally sounds better if I just let the ADX-90s pick up cymbals.
I run all of these through a Behringer MXB1002 (Mixer) and then to my Boss BR-1180 (Digital Recording Studio) via an RCA cable.

I am very gald that I invested in all of this equipment and would recommend it if you can allocate the resources.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2004, 09:25 PM »

It is quite interesting how different the sound is when running through mics and a mixer.  I personally enjoy having the setup with the ability to record at any time.  

He said ...

I'd obviously also use the equipment for recording as well, but that's an entirely different topic.

... so I left the whole recording thing out of the conversation.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2004, 09:46 PM »

He said ...... so I left the whole recording thing out of the conversation.
Grin guess I hijacked this thread  Roll Eyes
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But back on topic, I do listen to myself practice through the mixer, and the headphones do work as a moniters in that they reduce the decibel level reaching your ears initially, but still deliver the sound.  So it is, in my opinion, a very good way to protect your ears withoout losing the clarity of sound earplugs take away.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2004, 10:36 PM »

The concept of being able to record anything at any given moment would be very nice- I didn't even think of that aspect!. Just being able to capture some idea or groove or fill whenever and make a recording to have as a reference would be nice. All I meant about not getting into recording is that I didn't want to discuss all the different methods, technicalities, acoustics, equipment, etc.... So I don't blame you for "hijacking" the thead. You taught me something. I just wish I'd have thought of it before. Thanks!
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2004, 01:58 AM »

Apart from the recording aspect (which 563 rightly sidestepped), there is no point in mic'ing up the kit.
If you want to reduce the drums to a safer level, buy yourself some earplugs.
Amplifying the drums just increases the noise levels for everyone around you (neighbours etc).
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2004, 07:58 PM »

yes, do it... I kind of ONLY use headphones when I rehearse, practice, or record.  

I have $120 Sennheiser headphones that are made for drummers, and they seal around the outside of the ear pretty well, so you can adjust your volume pretty low and still make it work.  

I also use them without signal just as hearing protection.  Even without being plugged in, these headphones make your drums sound "recorded" just by nature of taking the edge off of the highs and the volume---gives them more punch.  The cool thing is,  when rehearsing, I'm the only guy in the band who can also hear the vocals, the guitars, bass, everything... so I always know where I am, Nice bonus!

A cheap alternative to protect your ears, is to buy those black fold-up "Lo-Pro" hearing protectors from WAL*MART's gun department!  They also make your drums sound more bottomy by taking away some highs and lowering the decibles... they don't plug in though...
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