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« on: November 14, 2004, 04:25 PM »

OKAY, so when I do a little fill where let's say I am doing single-stroke 8ths with left hand on the snare and right hand on the tom

...and then I reverse it so now my LEFT hand is on the same tom and my RIGHT hand is now back down on the snare.

I always thought this looks cool, switching hands and all, but just kinda noticed that it...well sorta sounds the same when you switch them. Perhaps a little different. Not much. Heck, yer still doing the same thing but now suddenly using different hands

SO, is it worth the effort to just switch hands between the same two drums while doing the same pattern...or is this just lame drumming?

When I switch hands should I be heading to some new drum territory and not just reversing what I am currently doing?

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2004, 04:35 PM »

There's more than one way to skin a cat!

Sometimes we play things different ways with the "same" audible effect for different reasons:

Sticking necessity.
To Look cool.
Ease of playing ability.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2004, 04:54 PM »

Nothing wrong with doing stuff to look cool, as long as it makes sense musically. You're putting on a show, after all.

I do it but when I switch, I tend to change toms too. LH-RH with LH on 10" tom, then RH-LH with RH on 12" tom.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2004, 05:52 PM »

Of course it sounds the same.  You're playing 8th notes between the same two toms.  All you've done is shift the pattern by half a beat, so that instead of landing on the beat with a drum, you land off the beat with that drum.

That said, who cares?  Do what you think works musically and visually.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2004, 08:21 PM »

you should definitely try it on different drums too, just to mix it up.

However, Buddy Rich often did a thing where he crossed his hands over from snare/floor tom to floor/tom snare and did it fast, to look cool.  I am sure that if sound alone was his goal, this flamboyant showmanship would have been uneccessary.   Go for the show!

In fact, I think I see Conan O' Brian's drummer, Max Weinberg do that all the time for visual effect too as the show is opening.

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2004, 09:04 PM »

There's a lot to be said for the visual aspect.  People like to see that cool sticking stuff, and hey - it's fun to do.

Check out Rhythmic Patterns for the Modern Drummer by Joe Cusatis.  The book is filled with exercises to develop cross-over stickling patterns on drumset.
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