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« on: November 29, 2004, 11:39 AM »

hello Drummer cafe.  I have been practicing my ass off and it is showing really good results.  I am looking into getting a new bass pedal but I don't know what I should get.  I want a double bass pedal even though I am not ready for one yet.  I want to get something that bounces back and stays right up against my foot.  If you know what I mean.  


just to let you know I got a good teacher and he has been helping me a lot.  I am still having a hard time with the fills but I have only been playing for 5 months so i think I will get it eventually. Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2004, 12:26 PM »

I am looking into getting a new bass pedal but I don't know what I should get.
Go to a drum shop and try out a load of pedals. All the high-end pedals are great, it's really just a matter of preferance.

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I want a double bass pedal even though I am not ready for one yet.
I think there are two schools of thought on this one - on the one hand, the sooner you get a double bass pedal, the sooner you can get good at using one. On the other hand, you might need to develop your right foot technique to make that pretty good before you worry about using both.

Either way, I'd suggest getting a double bass pedal now, and if you choose to work on your right foot more now, you just don't use the left pedal much. Then, when you want to focus on double pedal work, you already have the pedal, and don't end up buying another pedal in six month's/a year's/however long's time.

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I want to get something that bounces back and stays right up against my foot.  If you know what I mean.  

Play around with your pedal settings, in particular the tension of the spring.  You might be able to get something more to your liking without forking out on a new pedal.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 10:32 PM »

try DW 9000... expensive!!
But pearl eliminators are good too,plus you've got 6 different  cams (4 included). Definetely a good cam for your preferences.. It's affordable too, and durable..
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 05:25 AM »

I want to get something that bounces back and stays right up against my foot.  If you know what I mean.

Before buy any pedal test DW 9000  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2004, 08:24 PM »

I would vote for the DW 9000 too, but if budgets don't allow for this you can usually find a nice DW 5000 or a Tam Iron Cobra on e-bay for $ 100 or so.

Master the right foot first, getting to used to a doudle pedal so early in your studies could cause a "lazy" right foot.  Make sure you get plenty of right foot only time in to prevent this.

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2004, 08:49 PM »

i just got myself the pearl eliminator .. and it's really great -- quad beater, interchangeable cams, power shifter and a few more customisable features.. haven't tried the DW9000, but i'd say definitely check out this one. it's much better than the iron cobra.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 12:55 AM »

not to sound smug,

but i've been realizing that "go try whatever and see what fits" sounds ok in theory, but in reality, doesnt help much.  all pedals feel different in so many ways, that's its hard to choose.

instead, i've found when shopping, that's its really helpful by taking your old pedal with you to the store (heck, bring your own kit's bass drum!  if you're serious about your gear, you're serious about your gear.  Cool), and comparing it head to head with whatever's at the store, on a real bass drum.

think of your old pedal as your experiment's "control" to judge which pedal feels nicer than the old one, and which ones feel worse.  works far better than just going blindly into a store, and merely guessing at which one would feel good to you.

but if you need steering, ask your drum teacher if he/she can go with you to the store.  he/she knows your technique, needs, flaws, etc. more than you do, so might as well, ask him/her what they think would be a good pedal for you to develop your technique.

for me, i like alot of the newer japanese manufacturer entry level, single chain, double pedals like Tama's HP200 line, or Pearl's P122 line, etc.  they're all affordable, yet rock solid.

i've been looking for my own inexpensive double pedal, and call me crazy, but the Pearl P122 on my friend's little sister's kit, is pretty righteous!  much better feeling than pedals 3x its price.



finally, its not about how much you spend on a pedal, its what you make of it.  there are plenty of guys here who can show up to a gig, and use whatever pedal's connected to the club's house kit.  so, no matter how awesome your pedal, if your technique sucks, it still sucks.  trust me, i know... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 03:11 AM »

You're not crazy. That pedal is awesome.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2004, 01:03 AM »

I just got my Ludwig double bass pedal off e-bay, and it's amazing IMO. Then again I came from using some no name pedal that I was able to finally master. If you're thinking about getting a double bass pedal, definitly get it. You can always take off the second pedal and just use it like a single for now.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2004, 02:42 AM »

The Pearl Eliminator is a great feeling pedal but has proven to be not very durable. Every 6-9 months or so it goes to hell. I'm on my 3rd one now and it's about shot. It's too bad because they feel great to play. My next pedal is going to be a DW 9000. If you have the money, I would say get the DW 9000.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2004, 08:18 AM »

What in the world are you doing to your pedeal onebigdrumstick? I have never had any pedal fall apart on me and that includes the Eliminator. I love my Eliminator pedal more than the Iron Cobra I have. My main recommendation is to get a pedal that has plenty of adjustments. You can make the same pedal feel so many different ways with all of the adjustments they give you now. In my opinion, the Eliminator is the best because it seems to have the most adjustments. I don't care what you want it to feel like, you can achieve that feel from it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2004, 09:13 PM »

If I may add my 2 cents to the discussion.

There are 3 basic types of pedals, direct drive, chain drive and strap drive.  All of them have different feels to them.  I have over the years experimented with many different pedals and I would bet that you'll end up doing the same.  There is no "best" pedal out there although some might argue that.  It really comes down to what's best for you.

As someone else already said there are 2 schools of thought about getting a double pedal at such an early stage of your learning.  As long as you don't form bad habits by using a double pedal to play patterns that are normally played on one you should be alright.

If you do get a double pedal make sure there is no play on the slave pedal, it makes playing a lot harder and may cause unnecessary grief if it's taking you longer to develop your double bass chops.

Your last question is a matter of spring tension, you'll have to experiment with that as well.

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2004, 04:46 PM »

Check out the Axis pedals if you get a chance.  Very light, fast feel.  I agree on mastering the right foot first.  Get a copy of Colin Bailey's "Bass Drum Control".  It's about 30 years old but it's just sick what that guy can do with one foot.
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2004, 09:30 PM »

If you wanted to upgrade your pedal but not get a double too - you could try pedals that offer slave pedals. I got a pearl eliminator single pedal when i first  went up, wasnt sure if i ever would go double. When i decided to start looking into it though, i went with the pearl eliminator slave - works just as well, gives you time if you dont want/ cant dish out the money for a double.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2004, 12:06 AM »

A bass drum pedal is like a shoe. Go with the one that fits.
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