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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2004, 12:34 PM »

Darn "La Grange" by ZZ Top. Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2004, 07:00 PM »

The verse in Teacher by Jethro Tull -- owns me. Nuff said. Sad
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2004, 05:05 AM »

Interesting topic this....possibly relating to a mental block situation.  In my last band, we had one song that put the fear of God into me when it was approaching in the set.  I wouldn't mind, but it was me who put the drum patterns and beats together anyway!!  It had a quick double bass beat in the verses, which if I wasn't on form, would be a bitch of a beat.

I got so anal about this song that I hated playing it, and inevitably started making errors.  Funnily though on the recording of the jamming session during which we wrote the song, I really nailed the drum patterns.....every time thereafter was a different story......

I think it's a mental block.  What the mind believes, the body will enact upon.......
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2004, 09:16 AM »

In the last band I was with we entertained the idea of adding a second cover to our set: 'Sober' by Tool. It started out as kind of a joke (we weren't exactly 'tool-ish' with our sound Wink), but we still played with it a bit. For some reason the groove on that song just threw me for a loop. In particular, it was the last open HH note in each measure; I just couldn't get it to feel solid and flowing. The idea came up with only one rehearsal left before our shows in MN and I had to tell the guys that it just wasn't doable on such short notice. That happens to be one of those tunes that, IMHO, you simply can't do unless you get that groove right on.
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2004, 01:45 PM »

Not a single song, but I always have trouble with tunes using 16th notes on the hihat and 2 & 4 on the snare.  I've just never been able to get comfortable and smooth on that groove.
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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2004, 02:24 PM »

Our singer has a mental block on the vocal phrasing for "Mustang Sally."  Try as he might, he just cannot get it right.  It's that sorta long pause after the initial words: 'Mustang Sally. . . . . . . .'  that get him every time.  He wants to (and often does) come in sooner.  It's become comical.

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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2004, 03:42 PM »

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Our singer has a mental block on the vocal phrasing for "Mustang Sally."  Try as he might, he just cannot get it right.

Dave, I feel your pain! This song is a staple tune in our set. Our guitar player usually sings it, and his timing is spot on, like a metronome.
Anyway, we were doing this tune at a charity gig, with a female "guest vocalist", no rehersal, she swore she knew the tune. Anyway, you know the stop after  the line "One of these early morniiiiiiin's"? Now, being the mainly self taught player I am, I don't count thru the stop, our guitarist's vocal  is as good a count as the rest of the band needs. This girl decides to employ her own original phrasing to the lyric.
TRAIN WRECK!
Everyone's cue is gone, I look at the bass player and see that all-too-familiar look of panic! It's like you first bungee jump,  just leap and hope for the best!
Well, I've had a phobia about that song ever since!
Oh, and fast shuffle and swing tunes, I've always found playing triplet fills at fast tempos awkward. I can play them fine in a 4/4 setting, but they are dodgy at any other time.
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2004, 04:29 PM »

Anyway, we were doing this tune at a charity gig, with a female "guest vocalist", no rehersal, she swore she knew the tune.

Ahhh, the guest "vocalist."  Enough to give anyone a mental block.  Sounds like we have that - and Mustang Sally - in common.
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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2004, 06:43 PM »

Yes, it comes under the heading - famous last words.....

"Rehearsal? Nah, we'll just wing it!"
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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2004, 06:49 PM »

Yes, it comes under the heading - famous last words.....

"Rehearsal? Nah, we'll just wing it!"

Seems I get that a lot these days...maybe it's the crowd I'm running with. Starting to get used to it though, hehe Wink
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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2004, 02:53 PM »

My band's been working up Ricky Lee Jone's "Chuck E.'s in Love" to go with "Danny's All-Star Joint". Love both off them... and I'm happy with the way I play the latter...but the "Steve Gadd-signature-fill" in Chuck E's is very iffy for me. Half the time I get it OK and half the time I rush it or start late or do something to screw it up. Hopefully more practice will fix this.  Sad

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 I have not heard the tune 'dannys all star joint' in a while, but if memory serves me correct, this is where Gadd plays quarter notes on the ride/and the third note of every triplet with his hi-hat foot (to give that shuffle pattern) brilliant. I saw him doing this shuffle when i went to see him with Clapton.

 
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2004, 10:55 PM »

Achy breaky heart, Sorry i just can bring myself to play it. Grin
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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2004, 05:51 PM »

oh my.......glad I don't have to play that one.
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2005, 08:08 PM »

in my last band we had this one song that i could NEVER remember the beat for.  an original (what an understatement...),  "rectum inspection".  

it had this really weird feeling double bass part during the verses.  it was made even weirder by the other members not being able to stay anywhere close to in time.
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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2005, 08:37 AM »

Agree with jesster about "Sober".  That was a toughy for me as well.
Danny Carey always has a lot of fancy hihat work, see also track 2 on Aenima.
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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2005, 12:52 PM »

in my last band we had this one song that i could NEVER remember the beat for.  an original (what an understatement...),  "rectum inspection".

I think that "prostate exam" would've been a more politically correct title for the song!
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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2005, 01:21 PM »

'Oleo' and 'Evidence'.
I just never get the heads to those tunes down.
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2005, 11:16 PM »

Good to see you still posting Sheldon.
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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2005, 11:18 PM »

I think that "prostate exam" would've been a more politically correct title for the song!
I think "Bill is No Longer Allowed to Write Our Lyrics" would have been better.
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« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2005, 11:23 PM »

nice to know you by incubus. it's a fairly easy song but i always seem to lose beat during the chrous.
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