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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2004, 09:20 AM »

That can be pretty cool. Has anyone ever heard of Dred Zeppelin? They were big on the west coast in the 90s. They had an Elvis impersonator as the lead singer and would do Zeppelin tunes (I think "Smoke on The Water" too)  in a Reggae style with Elvis' vocal style.

 

Are they still around ?, many many years ago when working for a sound and lighting company I ran front of house sound for a number of their shows!  These guys were a blast  and great players too.

We have an upcoming show late this month which is promoted (as stange as it may sound) as "Polka meets Country"   We are in the process of finding standard Polka songs and converting them to Country songs.  The other bands playing ( a well known polka band) is taking Country hits and Polkafying them.  Should be a very wierd evening !!
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2005, 08:44 PM »

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     I've been in nothing but cover bands in the past. One of them dabbled with 6 or 7 originals sprinkled into the set list. However, I've got a very good friend who left his original band after 8 years because he spent more on gas then he got paid. Also, his gear would get damaged every so often by stage hands yanking his set off to set up the next kit.  He did say, in all fairness, that he loved the experience of creating/recording his own music. Unfortunately, they were never signed, and the monster that is an original band has a huge appetite for cash. CD's, advertising, merchandise, and gear/supplies gobble cash. The line"twenty minutes and twenty bucks" is pretty accurate.  The key is to get signed, and even then, you'll need to pay a good lawyer to prevent you from getting F'd over.  If you're married, it's tougher to handle. Good luck.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2005, 10:06 PM »

I am in a band that does all original music, and the sad reality here (rural) is that the bars all prefer cover bands to original stuff. Just the reality. Maybe different in urban areas. I don't really know.
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2005, 04:35 AM »

Our manager says the bar owners on occassion ask if we do originals and when she says "No" they say "Good".  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.  These aren't little rural bars either *which I find the most fun to play*- they are larger clubs.

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2005, 09:26 AM »

Yup. Seems like bands that play original music are treated like lepers. Guess perhaps the best strategy would be to combine original and covers, then maybe we'll get to play somewhere besides my basement.
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2005, 08:28 AM »

The problem with original bands is that most of them are 18-22 year olds who have no real clue what's going on in the music business, or in music.  They feel that they are the first band to do what they are doing and that all the places that book cover bands are a bunch of sellouts and corporate suits who have no desire to help the original music scene.  Unfortunately, the original music scene in most towns consist of less than adequate players writing awful songs.  Plus, the fans are usually a bunch of high school or just out of high school age kids who can't get into the clubs anyway!

The sad reality of the matter is, bar owners don't book bands for the sake of the band, it's a business venture for them.  If the band plays what the crowd wants, and people stay and have drinks and fun, the band has successfully completed it's task.  The best way to do this is to play covers appropriate to the scene.  I'm not thrilled to be drumming in a classic rock/oldies band, but the players are good, no one wants to be a rock star, and the money is good, because it's what people around here want to hear.  Fortunately, I also have an original project with some of the guys in this band, and it is creatively satisfying.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2005, 09:09 AM »

I'm not too thrilled about playing in a cover band myself.  But it keeps me playing and I get some recognition.

It sure isn't all I ever wanted out of music though.
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2005, 02:32 PM »

Oh I'd be less than honest if I said playing covers was my favorite! Although I DO indeed enjoy playing a lot of the songs we cover. I also like to write occasionally and feel inspired to write often! I consider myself to be fairly creative. But I don't kid myself in to thinking that all my creativity is good enough for everyone else to enjoy!  Wink That my friend is where a lot of "original bands" get totally lost. Just because you write a song, doesn't make it a good song!
Tony hit the freaking nail on the head about local bands. We have the same crap going on here! We even have a local website built around this "original bands" idea. Their forum is full of "the local live scene sucks" "nobody supports local music" and "the only thing we have around here is cover bands!".
The fact is my "cover band" stays pretty busy....around here! In fact we play to full clubs even on Thursday nights! Not bad for a town of 50,000 +. But go to their website and it's "only a few people showed up and you all missed a great show!"
I had an original band back in the early 90's. But we never forced our songs on anyone. We played a mixture of covers and only our best original songs. I guess being a radio guy kind of helps me pick out the good stuff I know folks would want to hear.
Don't get me wrong, being in an original band with great musicians is very cool indeed, but the fact is it's a much harder sell to most clubs. I enjoy the little cash flow to keep fresh heads and sticks on hand! Cool
 
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2005, 08:05 AM »

This is an interesting thread because, here in Athens, GA  - cover bands are sorta frowned upon.  The audience here expects original music and is, for the most part, pretty snobby about going out to hear cover bands.   There are a few successful cover bands that play here but they are mostly "tribute bands" (like my Talking Heads tribute band).  Tribute bands, if they are really authentic and "literal" are the only cover bands that get any respect and/or shows (shows=paid gigs).

The other band I play in does a wide mixture of covers and we are kind of the "bottom of the barrell" - last resort for desparate club owners who need an opener.  That's OK because we're all just in it for the fun of playing and we'd rather play earlier (opening bands here start around 10pm - headliners rarely start before midnight).  I'm talking about the club scene, of course.   Corporate gigs and private partis are a different story but there isn't much of that kind of work here.  

So, I guess that's just another way that Athens is unique.  A lot of musicians and bands actually move here for our scene because original bands rule this town!   and, a lot of labels come here looking for bands to sign.
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2005, 09:06 AM »

This is an interesting thread because, here in Athens, GA  - cover bands are sorta frowned upon.  The audience here expects original music and is, for the most part, pretty snobby about going out to hear cover bands.   There are a few successful cover bands that play here but they are mostly "tribute bands" (like my Talking Heads tribute band).  Tribute bands, if they are really authentic and "literal" are the only cover bands that get any respect and/or shows (shows=paid gigs).

The other band I play in does a wide mixture of covers and we are kind of the "bottom of the barrell" - last resort for desparate club owners who need an opener.  That's OK because we're all just in it for the fun of playing and we'd rather play earlier (opening bands here start around 10pm - headliners rarely start before midnight).  I'm talking about the club scene, of course.   Corporate gigs and private partis are a different story but there isn't much of that kind of work here.  

So, I guess that's just another way that Athens is unique.  A lot of musicians and bands actually move here for our scene because original bands rule this town!   and, a lot of labels come here looking for bands to sign.

Well, the last paragraph sums it up for you.  Athens is one of a handful of cities in the US that really supports it's local music scene.  More importantly, even though some great bands, both musically and commercially have come from Athens, it's refreshing that they've resisted the corparate raiding that often goes on when a geographical area has a band or 2 hit.  Look at the way the "Seattle Sound" created an entire subculture in America!

Louder, in Montgomery, there are a few similar websites up.  Montgomerysux.com is one, and there is a local club that has a local musicians forum that is really ridiculous.  It is nothing more than a place for a bunch of disgruntled kids to come and complain in profanity laced posts.  It does nothing but discredit the local original music scene even more.
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2005, 11:44 AM »


Louder, in Montgomery, there are a few similar websites up.  Montgomerysux.com is one, and there is a local club that has a local musicians forum that is really ridiculous.  It is nothing more than a place for a bunch of disgruntled kids to come and complain in profanity laced posts.  It does nothing but discredit the local original music scene even more.
You have described perfectly what www.bekkerrock.com is! It is a gripe fest for mostly metal bands (I'm talking black, death metal) that do nothing but use every four letter word you can think of to complain about their inability to be successful. Again, it's a small market and they don't understand that there are very few people in this particular area that their music appeals to. But "it's the town's fault", or "the cover bands fault" or "the people of Jackson's fault". Certainly it's not THEIR fault they're not millionaires! LOL I go to the site for the entertainment value! It's quite comical! Sometimes I discover new curse words or a new approach to totally alienate myself form everyone else in the musicians circle here in West Tennessee. Those skills maybe useful some day when I want to retire! LOL
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