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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2004, 06:01 PM » |
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Interesting, I never thought abuot the floor tom thing before. . .
. . .After this experience I will experiment more with traditional grip, and try and incorporate it more into my playing.
Check out some of Buddy Rich's DVDs. His 'left hand to floor tom' technique (with trad grip) is amazing. There's a clip of him and Ed Shaughnessey together on drummerworld. Watch for the 'under the arm' move.  |
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2004, 05:55 PM » |
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Basically, Moostification, I was a matched grip player for many years then switched to trad. grip. because my drum teacher who was a personal student of Louie Belson,Lionel Hamptonand Earl Walkins, showed me the advantages.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2004, 06:03 PM » |
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I ... switched to trad. grip. because my drum teacher who was a personal student of Louie Belson,Lionel Hamptonand Earl Walkins, showed me the advantages. I'm very happy for you, and not doubting your qualifications nor the traditional grip for a second. But you haven't explained to me why traditional grip "makes it easier to reach the floor tom without swiveling your hips" than the matched grip, as you asserted. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2004, 06:28 PM » |
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The reason that you see rudimental and rythmic technicians use traditional grip is that with their snare at a sideway slant, the only motion that they are making around the drums and cymbals are small circular ones; hence less wasted motion.
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2004, 06:36 PM » |
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Try for yourself and see.
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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2004, 07:14 PM » |
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Adam,You might want to check out Dave Weckl's (A natural Evolution"How to develop Technique") video, He goes into great depths on this grip.I tried for a bit,But have gone back to my old grip.One of the reason's for this grip is help with rebound and playing out of the head,As opposed to through the head.
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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2004, 08:00 PM » |
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That's quite interesting, cos when I was performing once on a jazz course, one of the guys there said I would be much better off playing with trad. He said it was just better. I suppose it must vary depending on which audience you're playing to...
I don't think the audience matters in that situation, I think it's more about what feels comfortable to you. What if a carpenter only used a hammer for his tool, and the only object inside his box was the hammer. How would he be able to build anything with only a hammer? it's only good for certain uses. And I think it's the same way with drumming, different techniques and grips are all going to be useful, depending on the situation. |
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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2004, 08:06 PM » |
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I don't think the audience matters in that situation, I think it's more about what feels comfortable to you. What if a carpenter only used a hammer for his tool, and the only object inside his box was the hammer. How would he be able to build anything with only a hammer? it's only good for certain uses. And I think it's the same way with drumming, different techniques and grips are all going to be useful, depending on the situation.
Well said. There is no one-size-fits-all in drumming. If there were, we'd all be playing the same music on the same kit, same color, with the same cymbals, using the same grip. And we'd have absolutely nothing to talk about here @ DC. |
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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2004, 08:56 PM » |
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That would be my worst nightmare!  Of course that will never happen, and we can always use the search button... right?  |
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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2004, 03:44 AM » |
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Thanks groovin! I'll see if my store has it. Luckily, I have a lesson set up for tomorrow, so my crisis should be resolved (or mediated, at least).
I don't think it matters which grip you use to hit your floor tom. It depends on the placement.
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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2004, 09:24 AM » |
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I think the grip you use when you hit the floor tom is important. I still struggle a little when hitting the floor tom correctly, because I got in the habit of doing this back hand motion when I would hit it. It's not very good for your wrist, I also find my self using German grip when hitting the floor tom with my right hand. I think it's important to notice these things, but I try not think about it when I'm playing.
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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2005, 03:56 PM » |
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No prob Adam.Guess what I was playing the other day and found that still use that grip,didnt even realize it.I kinda use them all depending on the situation.
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