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bolero
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« on: December 17, 2004, 10:01 PM »

I have this small mp3 of Travis Barker doing a quick marching snare solo.  Through it, it sounds like he's ding alot of flams, and right before he machine guns it at the end, it sounds like he's doing doubles but flamming in there, im curious to know if anyone has any idea the sticking of be able to get this sound?

Heres the link http://home.cogeco.ca/~ggamache/travis-snare.mp3

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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2004, 10:29 PM »

Likely Flam taps, which can be closed into a roll.  I cant't get the video, just a page of computer gobbledygook.

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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2004, 06:50 AM »

Video didn't work for me either.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2004, 09:42 AM »

what video? the video on blinks site? because i just posted the Mp3 sound of it not a video?

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2004, 12:16 PM »

Here, I slowed it down, albeit to a much lower fidelity.  See if that helps.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2004, 12:47 PM »

The flam stuff you're probably talking about are 3-note patterns that could either be Flam Accents or Swiss Army Triplets, depending on how he played them.

Flam Accent: (grace notes in lower case)

lR L R  rL R L


Swiss Army Triplets: (ditto)

lR R L  lR R L       or     rL L R  rL L R


Then at the end it sounds like he's doing what some call Hertas, a grouping of two 32nd notes followed by two 16th notes.

Drum corps sticking would be:

RR L R  LL R L

Many rock and fusion drummers simply use alternating sticking:

RL R L  RL R L
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2004, 10:39 PM »

Hey thanks Mister Acrolite, sounds like you got it right on, im pretty sure the swiss amry triplet is what he is doing first and the drum corps sticking for the next one, thanks!

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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2004, 05:58 AM »

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what video? ....i just posted the Mp3 sound

Sorry, I got nothing at all.  I athought you were trying to post a video clip.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2004, 10:16 PM »

Right before the roll at the end, he's playing what us "corps guys" call "cheese's"

Due to the quality of the recording, it's difficult to tell, but he may not be flamming them.  In which case, just take the flams off.

on my not very well kept up to date website, I have an explanation of cheeses, under "standard rudiments"

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http://hometown.aol.com/kevlar9296/
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