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Author Topic: Zildjian ZXTs  (Read 414 times)
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RoCkDrUmMiN
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« on: January 02, 2005, 04:26 PM »

Yo. i play mostly heavy metal metal music so i need good loud powerfull strong cymbals to handle this style.  the best ive found so far are definitely  Zildjian Z custom cymbals but as most of you know these come attached to a pretty heavy price tag  and being a student i cant afford these. i was looking at the Zildjian ZXTs which are more in my price range but could someone please tell me if they are any good for heavy music? i mean are they that price for a reason?
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2005, 04:45 PM »

My advice to you is DON'T BUY THEM!!! First of all they don't sound so good and if you are a heavy hitter they probably won't last long...I had a 16" medium thin crash and it broke after 3 months and I didn't bash it that hard...
I would recommend you SABIAN AA Metal-X ...they are not so expensive and they sound great, and from what I read they are tough
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2005, 05:47 PM »

I second AA Metal-X.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2005, 11:06 PM »

They're cheap because they're sheet bronze cymbals, not cast bronze. You get what you pay for.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2005, 11:47 PM »

I played a kit with some ZXT's a little while back. I wasn't impressed....I prefer old Zidjians' or Paiste 2000, or, or, etc....   Roll Eyes   It's your choice....There's a ton of cymbals. But they wouldn't be mine.    Lips Sealed
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2005, 12:47 AM »

Or actually buy used cymbals..it will save    you a lot of money if you want Z Custom cymbals.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2005, 01:33 AM »

The Zildjian ZXT line never moved me in any direction.IMO if your on a budget Paiste 300's or Sabian B8's and B8 Pro's are a good choice.Definatly peruse though and look for used cymbals that such as Zildjian Z's.Also take a look into a company named Saluda.Their Mist series line is about the same price wise as ZXT's and B8's but they are amazing cymbals and as far as I know....they don't ever break.Cymbals are a worthy investment but shop good as to not waste your money by ending up with something that doesn't give you " your " sound.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2005, 02:14 AM »

They're cheap because they're sheet bronze cymbals, not cast bronze. You get what you pay for.

That a cymbal was formed out of a sheet with others, rather than an ingot (later to be made into a "mini-sheet") in the case of a cast bronze cymbal, does not make it of cheap (which I read to mean "poorer") quality, regardless of workmanship after the blank was fabricated.  It is merely an issue of scale—that is to say, ten cymbals made at once versus one, with sheet and cast bronze respectively.

Now, it could be accurately said that because of the alloy used (~8% tin in sheet bronze cymbals v. ~20% tin in cast bronze) that a sheet bronze cymbal is economically cheaper due to the cost of tin.  Some drummers also prefer the tonal characteristics of one alloy over another, which also justifies the need for discrimination.

The reason that ZXT cymbals are cheaper is that not a lot of effort goes into shaping and lathing them, as well as the mere price of the alloy as mentioned.

Now, if I may speculate, I understand that sheet bronze (of which the ZXTs are made) is not as brittle as cast bronze, which is why it's the metal used for sheet cymbals in the first place.  In effect, this would render the ZXT cymbals stronger than some other cymbals and therefore able to take more active playing.
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RoCkDrUmMiN
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2005, 07:34 AM »

Thanks guys. yeah i see what your saying about the ZXTs, Joe, ill take a look into it. was cheking out the Sabian AA Metal X range and they totally seem to be pretty tough and handle heavy music. if anyone knows of any other cymbal which copes with extreme heavy metal, let me know. Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2005, 09:31 PM »

If you can, go to a shop and A/B the ZXTs with some of the other cymbals you're thinking about...I know the ZBT/ZXT series cymbals take a lot of (excuse the pun) "hits" on these forums, but I don't know that makes them bad cymbals....I admit I don't have the experience many here have, but I listened to some ZBTs in a shop here that sounded pretty good against some higher-priced cymbals...even the sales guy was complimenting them.
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