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« on: January 09, 2005, 03:29 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2005, 02:55 AM »

sonor mini boom stand (the $30 one):  pro: its cheap, very sturdy, gets the job done.  con:  ugly as a straight stand becuz the arm doesnt fit into the base tube, boom arm is short    8/10

Pearl Primero Cowbell ($10):  pro: its cheap   con: hard to control it's volume... too loud, get an LP instead        6/10

RemOs 14" snare tone control rings ($5):  pro: nothing   con:  they are too big and thick, completely chokes teh snares... they dont control the tone, just muffle the life out of the drum...  only use these if youl ike the sound and feel of a choked drum.   (1/10)

Travis Barker signature ZIldjian sticks ($6):  Its chipping fast, I don't believe travis actulaly uses this garbage.  Unless youre jus looking for pretty sticks to decorate your stick bag with, grab some Vaters instead        5/10

Zidljian stick bag (the $10 one):  pro:  gets the job done, its cheap    con: middle pocket isnt seperated at the crease when you close the bag.   becuz it isnt u gota adjust your sticks everytime u zip it up.       8/10
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2005, 03:57 PM »


SABIAN 16" HH Medium-Thin Crash


I recently got this cymbal during christmas. it was on sale for $136 CDN, so it was a pretty good deal. When i brought this home, it sounded AMAZING. The decay is fairly short when played with a whole drumkit, and the tone is just perfect. Even my friends think its awesome.

I also got a dw 5000L boom stand for 70 CDN, and I think this thing is great for the price. Large rubber feet, thick bass tube, 2 adjustments on boom, and it is strong, yet lighter than all my stands.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2005, 08:46 AM »

The 16 inch HH med-thin is one of my favorites.  Sounds great live or recorded.  If I only take one crash out of the house, this is the one.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2005, 02:18 PM »

Rhythmtechs Laptop pad. I just got this and its one of the coolest pads ive used. Pros: you can hear your ghost notes and drags with a more realistic snare sound than on the RealFeel when going through GLS stick control. Cons: for apartment use late at night it still might annoy your neighbors if the walls are thin. It really sounds like a snare drum.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2005, 07:05 PM »

Pearl 3-leg Hi Hat Stand #820. $80. Bought today, but its my second one. Pearl hardware is generally a good value for the money. I have lugged one around for about 5 years now, and it has held up well.

Pro: Price compares favorably to other brand names. Reliable. Sturdy. Double braced. Chain drive. Pedal swivels. Adjustable. Comes with allen wrench, clutch, and key.

Con: Heavy. Probably too sturdy unless you are transporting it alot.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2005, 11:24 AM »


Schalloch Cajon
At a clearance price of $60 I figured this was going to be the cheapest way to get a cajon without building one myself.  Which is always a good idea in theory, but not always in practice Wink   And seeing as how this item is not on Schalloch's own website I assume the clearance is discontinuation based.

SOUND

Sounds good to me.  Honestly my ears are untrained for cajon study, but I do know what they are supposed to to.  

The bass tones are big and room filling (but very dry/short) when you hit them right.   There is very much a sweet spot for bass, and your hands shape makes big difference too.   In that regard, its a rather unforgiving instrument.  But once you find that spot, its lovely.  I personally prefer the bass tones with a tighter snare wire setting, as they rattle less and just add some speaker like distortion.  

The slap tones are again, a matter of dialing in the sweet spot, but is more forgiving than the bass.   I found that backing out most screws along the top and one down the left hand side about one turn, aided the slap tone greatly.   It amplifies it, makes it easier to 'nail', and brings in more snare sound without adding it to the bass tones.   Once found, a good slap is dry, dark, and with a nice dirty edge to it.  

BUILD

This is often where less expensive instruments show their 'worth'.   And this is certainly no fancy instrument.   Its sides, top and bottom are 3/8" thick with the front (playing surface) and back (resonant side with 5" hole) being 1/8" thick.    Somewhere along the way, the wrong information was passed along and the playing face was listed as 4/5" thick.   Ignore that.   The whole thing is internally framed with 1/2" square stock.   It has 3/4" thick wide rubber feet, and a textured top.   I could lean back while sitting on it, and neither one of us lost our balance.  With the feet it stands about 18" high.   I'm 6' tall with a 30" inseam and its the perfect sitting height for me.  

The snare system uses two guitar strings, each going down and then back up the inside of the playing surface for a total of four strings across it in a W pattern.   They are hard mounted at the top to part of the framing.  At the bottom they are looped around two bolts that pass through the bottom of the instrument, and up into a "free floating" piece that is held in place by a vertical beam.   That "free floating" piece and the bolts are how you adjust the tension of the strings.   By turning the bolts from underneath the instrument, the strings get pulled down, and tight, or get released and loosened.   You actually have a little room to adjust each side individually.   This came in handy when one of the four lengths of string was a little loose, I could just pull that side down tighter, and balanced out the string tension.

OVERALL

I'm glad I bought it.   It seems plenty solid and while too much adjusting of the screws on the playing surface may eventually wear out parts, I honestly don't think I have any more tweaking to do.   It really sounds great now that I've set it up.   I also tried it with a bass pedal while sitting on it.   A little awkward having to use your heel on the pedal, but it was loud and attacky with my felt Iron Cobra beater.   I'd probably want to use a puffier, lambswool beater if I were to use it like this.   But as a stool/bass drum while sitting at congas?  Very cool Grin

Somethings I may have wanted different.   A pad on top.   Great idea, but adds to the cost.   Its not at all uncomfortable, but I think if I were planning on sitting on it a while I'd actually install something permenant.   And nylon washers under the snare adjust bolts.  They are just tensioned into the wood on the bottom.   Using a differently headed bolt and nylon washers wouldn't have effected cost, and would've made it more resistant to damage over time.  

While I like the sound just fine with the snares, I'm one for options.   I pretty much disengaged the snares and liked the clean tone alot.    So I think I may take a page from Meinl's new cajon (which costs twice as much as this one) and install a snare system that can be turned totally off.   Probably a headset/drum muffler style one.  

Side view showing thickness of playing surface:



Back view showing hole and some internal framing:



Bottom view showing feet and snare adjustment bolts:



Inside-front-bottom view showing the snare tension works.   You can really only see two of the wires as two run parallel to the vertical support.  Also note the EXTREMELY handy little rubber thing glued on to hold the allen wrench for the snare adjust bolts.



Inside-front-top view showing the strings mounted:

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2005, 01:07 PM »

Zildjian K Custom Session Cymbals


ZILDJIAN K Custom Session Hi-Hats

Several months ago I picked up the K Custom Session hats.  I really like these cymbals.  I've forever been a big fan of my ancient Quick Beats and New Beats, but these are fast becoming my new favorite high hats.  They feature a heavier (medium) top cymbal and lighter (medium thin) bottom.  Let's call them 14", but the top is actually a 16th of an inch or so smaller than the bottom.  They have a nice warm sound, and a crisp defined chick when played with the foot.  I like to play them 1/2 open on certain bombastic rock tunes and they have a nice shimmering sound to them when played that way.  They're clean and responsive when played lightly.  They have a brilliant finish, and that's the only thing I'm not crazy about (they quickly pick up a lot of schmutz if you use your left hand to control them during jazz beats).  That's the only unflattering thing I have to say about these hats.  I like them a lot.  I liked them enough to go back to the shop to investigate the rest of the series, which I also bought.



ZILDJIAN 20" K Custom Session Ride


There is a brilliant finish on this cymbal as well.  It's also unlathed, so it has a smooth overall surface.  It's medium thin and has a really nice defined stick sound, especially when played with lighter sticks.  I've found it to have rather high overtones despite what the Zildjian marketing blurbs say about it.  In fact, when played with a heavier stick (I'm calling a 5B heavy in this case) with an olive bead, the overtones can build to the point where they sound like high-pitched feedback.  Nevertheless, when played with a lighter stick (Regal Tip 5A or 7A E series, in this case) the spread was much more acceptable.  The smooth finish means you can't scrape or drag a wire brush handle or a chicken foot on it to get that 'zzzziinnnggg' effect.  However, it speaks quickly and clearly when accented with the shoulder of the stick.  It has a good sized bell with a nice clear tone.   I still keep my Ping Ride in the bag, but I've been using this cymbal more and more - especially for lighter gigs.


ZILDJIAN16" and 18" K Custom Session Crashes

These cymbals are thin weight and have a standard (not brilliant) finish.  This seems a bit strange to me since their siblings have brilliant finishes.  But I digress.

I like this 16" very much.  Zildijian says the sound is low and dark.  Not to my ear.  The 16 seems to have a very pleasing high-pitched sound to it.  It speaks quickly and drops off quickly as well.  This was a nice addition to my crash collection.

The 18" does have a low, dark sound to it, and I like it in certain situations.  It takes a bit of effort to make this crash ring out, even though its a thin cymbal.  In addition to being a nice warm crash, it makes a decent crash-ride - especially with a little sizzle device (beads, coins, whatever) added to it.  I liked it enough to buy it, but to my ear it's kind of the weird uncle of the set - it's darkness sets it apart from the rest.

I encourage you to go listen to these cymbals.  Don't be guided entirely by the sound clips on the Zildjian site.  Go play them with various flavors of your own sticks.  Have someone else play them while you stand back.  Listen while facing them and while facing away from them.  I'm betting you will like what you hear - especially the hats and the 16" crash.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2005, 07:26 AM »

DW 9000 Titanium Ltd Edition

I was lucky enough to pick this up on ebay (used by Darrin Mooney Primal Scream)

The pedal is a delight, smooth as silk, and doesn't feel like your pushing anything. The first few times I used it I couldn't believe I actually had a pedal under my feet. It is very fast and built like the proverbial brickhouse. So I'm now one of only 500 drummers to own one, at a bargain price of $375! And Darrin is a top man, very down to earth and helpful.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2005, 12:46 AM »


Sabian HHX Evolution 17" & 18" Crash Cymbals


straight up, one of the more satisfying crash cymbals i've owned in a long time.  Cool  but hyperbole aside, in the store, at home in the ol' basement studio, and live on a praise/worship gig at Binghamton U., they shined like no other.

bought brand new from Long Island Drum Center, and admittedly, very much on a whim, while shopping for new aquarian heads.  but after the first strike, there was no way i was about to let these guys get away before i left the store.  

i first fell in love with the 18" crash, and while loud, was never brash, assaulting, or brittle sounding.  instead, warm, sweet, and yet full with a nice color of dark undertones.  dare i say, its like a perfected A Custom Fast Crash.  has that soft yet quick attack ala many an ACFC, and yet had waay more body and richness.  also, very thin.  easily bendable.  

just to keep my ears in check, i went around the cymbal room to see if anything else stood out.  i.e. the Zildjian K Custom Dark 18" had those same dark undertones, somewhat sweetened top end, but with a more upfront inyourface midrange.  the Z Constantinople 18" was much trashier, and oddly, this particular one was strangely assaulting and almost obnoxious.  the Sabian AAX Dark 18" was much darker, a bit muted, and without alot of the upper end.  the Sabian HHX Manhattan was much quieter, softer feel, and not as much cutting power.  the Sabian Vault 18" was very similar, yet with a bit more cutting high end.

the 17" is simply a higher pitched version, and of the two that were on the rack, i simply picked the one that sounded best with the 18".

after telling a drummer friend about 'em, i brought them down to our rehearsal for the aforementioned p&w gig at Binghamton University.  listening from his left side, the cymbals cut a nice path thru the dual guitar attack, and yet also had a warm presence that was never brash, annoying or funky.  

he got soo excited about 'em, that i agreed to let him use it for the night itself.  Bing U's gospel choir needed to borrow his kit for their set, and again, we both thought the cymbals had that warm presence that was just perfect for their group's sound as well.  as the cliche goes, "musical" in every possible way.  Wink

all in all, i couldnt be happier with these crashes, and they're now my new numero uno set.  Weck has good ears, and i'm only too happy to be on the receiving end.  Smiley

Grade: A-
Pros: Like a fatter A Custom Fast Crash.  Nice sweetened attack, with warm undertones, and an easy soft stick feel.
Cons: Rather thin.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2005, 11:39 AM »

Nice review Joker.  I fully agree with your analysis of the these cymbals and plan to buy the 18" crash and maybe a 16".  The 18" reminds me a lot of an old 18" K Custom a buddy of mine has.  I checked out newer K Custom crashes and can't seem find that same sound.  But the Evolution did it for me during a visit to my local GC and I immediately put it on my list of gear to buy.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 08:18 AM »

Grade: A-
Pros: Like a fatter A Custom Fast Crash.  Nice sweetened attack, with warm undertones, and an easy soft stick feel.
Cons: Rather thin.

The fact that these cymbals are "thin" is NOT a con or negative. They are made this way on purpose! The AAX and HHX series of Sabian cymbals are made while the metal is in a cold state. This allows the cymbal to remain strong while staying thin. When metal is heated, then pounded thin, it runs the risk of breaking, which is why you made the comment that these are "thin". But in the case of AAX and HHX, this is simply not a negative factor. In fact, that's why they sound so good! You're getting a sound and feel of a Thin weight cymbal, but with the strength and durability of a Medium weight cymbal. This is GOOD!!!
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 08:38 AM »

Interesting article in MD about a Sabian cymbal-maker who worked on the Evolution line with Weckl.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 10:21 AM »

Thanks for the info Bart.  That's nice to know because that was my only concern with these cymbals.  Boy, do they sound nice!
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2005, 08:56 PM »

The fact that these cymbals are "thin" is NOT a con or negative. They are made this way on purpose! The AAX and HHX series of Sabian cymbals are made while the metal is in a cold state. This allows the cymbal to remain strong while staying thin. When metal is heated, then pounded thin, it runs the risk of breaking, which is why you made the comment that these are "thin". But in the case of AAX and HHX, this is simply not a negative factor. In fact, that's why they sound so good! You're getting a sound and feel of a Thin weight cymbal, but with the strength and durability of a Medium weight cymbal. This is GOOD!!!

thx for the info, bart,

didnt know about the "cold press" process, but hopefully, for our harder hitting gents, the thinness wont scare them from a great sounding crash.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2005, 06:32 AM »

Aquarian Super-kick I  24" bass drum head.  Mounted on a 24 x 14 Rogers, Script series powertone with a clear Remo pinstripe on the resonate side.  The pedal is a Speed-King with a felt beater.  I had an old Ludwig single ply coated head on the batter side and just enough head on the outside to show the Rogers logo and a blanket touching about 3 inches of the batter head along the bottom of the drum.  I wasn’t happy with that sound so I gave the Aquarian a try.  I put the pinstripe on the resonate side for a test run before I bought the matching Aquarian resonate head because they seem similar weight.  

I tuned the batter head to the lowest note, just above a “thud” and tried different tensions on the resonate head, I don’t have any muffling inside the drum.  The higher I tuned the resonate head the boomier the sound.  I ended up with a note out of the resonate head that was about a third above the batter side.  I didn’t get any ring with these heads (after the head was in tune around the edge).

I now have the best sound out of my bass drum ever.  When sitting behind the set the bass is punchy and out front it is a BIG sound.  Just enough boom to cut through the amps (no mic’ing).  

It is the first time I’ve had other band members mention a change in the tuning and sound of my drums and they all liked it, especially the bass player.  
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2005, 09:19 AM »

Just got a new Tama Stainless Steel shell snare. The company's website describes it as between dark and bright, but that is very misleading. This thing is powerful! The 1.2mm steel shell gives the sound a great chance to project, and project it does. Compared to my ageless 80's swingstar toms, I almost wish I had a volume control on the snare. My bandmates have unconsciously turned their amps up and the PA system in one of our rehearsal spaces is sometimes at 11. At a small gig recently, the sound guy was hesitant to mic the drum. And this is when I'm not laying into it with full force.

Tama has made a drum that combines bright, quick attack with incredible volume and projection. The danger with metal shells it that overtones could take over and turn every shot into an annoying tingy hum. This snare adds thick Mighy Hoops and a bulge around the center of the shell which cuts the overtones and actually makes the snare slightly dark. The throw-off is stable and releases quickly and smoothly. It comes stock with Tama-branded Evans Genera heads, which means I won't have to change them for a while.

The only drawback would be the volume. The snare is unsuitable for some softer jazz (unless it's big band) and blues, where you'll be thinking more about controlling your volume rather than listening to the music. While you can clearly hear each minute stick tap and the lightest rolls (which is a plus), this snare can drown out everything else on the kit (and the stage) with just a little bit of power.  The good thing about this is that you don't have to lay into the snare as hard to get a good sound, thus sparing your hoops, your sticks, and your body some undesired wear and tear. Having been used to a POS ancient (not ageless) Swingstar aluminum snare that I'd have to hit with a hammer just to hear the thing, the transition to the Stainless Steel snare has required some adjustments in my playing style, but all for the better.

The big plus is the price. At about $350 Canadian, the snare is an affordable and extremely stable drum that I know will stay with me for many years to come. Overall, if you're looking for a quick, sharp, and LOUD drum to add some powerful punch to your rock and metal backbeats, especially in a louder band, the Tama Stainless Steel snares (as well as their other various metal-shelled snares, I'm sure) offers a serious piece of hardware to your kit.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2005, 09:08 AM »

Ok check it out- yes, it's a pink stain over a split Keller maple shell with 2  45 degree bearing edges.  It's a 7x12 in case you might be wondering



There is an acrylic "pocket" and he fills it with whatever you want hence the name "Lacuna" snare which is latin for "gap"- this is a Lacuna snare and the gap is filled with plastic eyeballs

Lester makes all the aluminum hardware himself and none of it touches the shell.  The interference of the T Rod and turnbuckle/insert feel great- very firm and tight.  The whole drum is a quality instrument and there ain't another one like it.



There is a Nickelworks throw and 3 vents.  



It has equalizers and a hi performance snare head with 2.3 mm triple flanged hoops.

The sound is gulpy and a bit on the dry side- warm with the coated dbl thin on top.  Not overpowering like some of my other snares can be.  Hardly any noticable sympathetic buzz. Luv the real estate I have between my legs now. I have a session tomorrow *for fun, you know me* and I'll post a sound file or two.

Pretty cool huh?  Wasn't that expensive either.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2005, 09:14 AM »

wow,

crazy wack!  cool snare, Felix.  clips, mebbe?
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2005, 09:16 AM »

probably thursday
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2005, 09:29 AM »

It looks like it is covered with those jiggly "google eyes".

IT'S CREEPING ME OUT!!  Shocked
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2005, 09:31 AM »

Pretty cool huh?

Way cool.  Can't wait to hear the sound files.

Love the lugs.  I'd love to get some for one of my project drums, but I suspect that he's going to keep them "in-house."  I know I would - a unique lug design is a rareity these days.
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2005, 09:45 AM »

He probably would make you up a set Jamez.  He could use the dough I think.

Tuning a floating shell- well it's as weird as the drum.  You can crank on the bottom and then hear a difference on the top and vice versa.  It's pretty bizarre.  You get it in tune and the drum sounds totally wide open and you think "man this is great" so then you play around with it some more and are like "wow, this is great too".  It's a different sound for sure.  You would think you would hear the eyeball rattling around- not so.  The cut is warm- very maple but without the body and sustain of a solid craviotto- more like the dw ply sound.  And for my purposes, those drums are too much for my tastes anyways.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2005, 12:45 PM »

Due to the plethora of downloads I reduced the file size to 2.5 meg

http://www.woolyinc.com/eyeballjam.mp3

 These are not my sigs, these are they jellybean vistalites and the Zehner custom snare.

Studio notes *I know how some of you guys love this stuff.

I'm using an EV RE20 on kick
Sennheiser 441 on top of snare
(2) Neumann TLM 193's as overheads (I think that's what they are called)

Focusrite pre pack 428 pre amp module at 16 bit 44.1

Put a little verb and predelay on the mixdown for fun.  I played the solo this morning- after I warmed up for about 30 seconds- this is the first take.  It's pretty awesome if I do say so myself Cheesy I was going to try and make you guys feel better and say I had been working on it for months, but I'm not good at lying so enjoy the Easter jellybean drum solo felix style- and I hope you like my new snare!!!   Cool Grin
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2005, 10:18 AM »

Congrats on kicking the nic!
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2005, 04:29 PM »

Due to the plethora of downloads I reduced the file size to 2.5 meg

http://www.woolyinc.com/eyeballjam.mp3

 These are not my sigs, these are they jellybean vistalites and the Zehner custom snare.

Cool stuff, chief.

Yeah, that clinches it - I need to pull all the hardware off of my 5x12 SlingerYo, and get a honkin' 7" deep Shell Of Doom to put it on.  Between the 'Yo, and some other 12" snares I've heard via Internet sound files, I'm losing faith in shallower 12s - I gotta get me some depth to go with that diameter.

And the bass drum sound is, in the words of my second-least-favorite American Idol judge, "Yo!  It's da bomb, dog!"  Grin  (Seriously, it kills.)

Between you and LuvMyLeedy, you guys are gonna convince me yet to buy some friggin' acrylic shells and build a kit...
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