Check out the Christmas CD, "It's For You He Came", featuring Bart Elliott on drums and percussion, available in the Drummer Cafe Store.

NEW PREMIUM RESOURCE

Frank Briggs has provided yet another play-along for our Premium Resource subscribers. "Potato" is an intermediate level play-along track from Mike Keneally's CD, Sluggo!

Subscribers can download audio tracks (with and without drums as well as solo drums) plus a PDF drum transcription and recording session notes.



Drummer Cafe Community Forum
December 02, 2008, 01:10 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Christmas CD featuring Bart on drums & percussion.
 
   Home   Login Register  
Pages: 1 2 [3]  All   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Setup  (Read 1788 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Guy's Big Butt
Silver Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 468


I love the Drummer Cafe!


« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2005, 08:20 AM »

Just for kicks, I tried Incudrummer's set up and it felt and looked absolutely retarded- I kept hitting the hi-hat's while trying to reach the toms and flams on the snare just felt plain awkward....You'll be much better off with the "conventional" set-up.

As far as unorthodox set-ups, i saw Kenny Aronoff playing with Melissa Etheridge recently, and he had his middle tom on his left side, and then his high tom...but they weren't right next to each other- they were  seperated by about a foot...I'm not really sure what kind of advantage this has if he fills from left to right- as most people do.
Logged
moosetication
supporter
Platinum Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 1485


one ... two ... one two three four


WWW
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2005, 08:31 AM »

You can see that setup and how "badly" it impacts Kenny's ability to fill in this clip here.

Or not, as the case may be Wink

Generally, one aim of such an "unorthodox" setup is to "break the mould" a bit and not think in straight descending fills on the toms. The most extreme example of this is probably Bill Bruford's symmetrical set up (scroll down the page to see it).
Logged

After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music. Aldous Huxley
greg
Guest
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2005, 09:02 AM »

Just for kicks, I tried Incudrummer's set up and it felt and looked absolutely retarded- I kept hitting the hi-hat's while trying to reach the toms and flams on the snare just felt plain awkward....You'll be much better off with the "conventional" set-up.

As far as unorthodox set-ups, i saw Kenny Aronoff playing with Melissa Etheridge recently, and he had his middle tom on his left side, and then his high tom...but they weren't right next to each other- they were  seperated by about a foot...I'm not really sure what kind of advantage this has if he fills from left to right- as most people do.
Aronoff has been playing his kit like that for years.  It seems he could get by with a traditional 4 piece set up because most of his fills are between the rack in front of him and the floor tom.  He uses the smaller rack every now and then.  But thats Kenny and it wouldn't matter how he set up his kit, he'd still rock your face off!!
Logged
TSDrums
Guest
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2005, 08:07 AM »

I agree with James, to an extent. Because I play a fairly large set-up, placement is vital. There is no earthly way that I could do some of the patterns that I do with my main snare in the place of my aux. Unless I had my tom-toms between my legs.  Anyway, my point being, I suppose, is that I was taught to play with the snare between my legs for many reasons, and they have all been mentioned. If you are having  problem playing cross handed, try getting a remote (Cable operated, free standing) hi hat, and lay with the hats to your right, or in front of you even. I think re-arranging your hats would benefit more than moving your snare.
Ian
Logged
IncuDrummer
Bronze Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 184


Insert Humorous Text Here


« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2005, 10:17 PM »

why doesn't anyone bother to read everybody's responses. i already fixed my setup and figured out that it was really stupid the way i had it before and that i never really gave the conventional setup a chance. that being said, my retardo setup actually had one positive effect: it improved my left hand speed.
Logged

-P Smack
TSDrums
Guest
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2005, 11:00 PM »

Yeah, I suppose I responded premature. Good luck bud.
Ian
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3]  All   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.7 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC | Sitemap Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.108 seconds with 21 queries.
Copyright ©2001 - 2008 Drummer Cafe. All rights reserved.
developed by Bart Elliott | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Site Map