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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2005, 10:21 PM »

Sore?

You know what they say...no pain, no gain! Grin
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2005, 06:14 AM »

You know what they say...no pain, no gain! Grin

Except in drumming!  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2005, 09:00 AM »

To quote Jim Chapin." If they say no pain no gain,shoot em"
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2005, 06:48 AM »

very true, drumming isn't one of those no pain no gain times, you want to avoid pain as much as possible

learning to ride with your left hand more often or atleast incorporating it into your practice routine will work wonders, think about it, you use your right hand 4 times more then your left (assuming you ride 8ths more often then not)
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2005, 10:35 AM »

How about getting a "stress ball" and squeezing that with your left hand, instead of lifting weights?  I find the stress ball is good for warming up, as well.
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2005, 06:35 PM »

Most of today's great players, and all of the historical Giants did not lead with the left hand with the exception of Billy Cobham (to my knowledge- please feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
They all had happening left hands. This leads me to believe a great "weak" hand can be accomplished. Try the Stick Control book! Make sure your doubles are even. Play RLL in triplets, loop it over and over again... on a pillow. Accent the last double stroke for extra fun.
I'd agree with our two resident experts (felix and bart: *bows*) in the sense that it probably boils down to having good technique.
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2005, 03:00 AM »

lots of great advice!

but surprised the most obvious hasnt been mentioned: using a metronome!  simple, yet MOST effective.  

my left hand is ... well.. slower than my right.  so with a metronome, my left hand is forced to keep up with my quicker right.

already after a few weeks, i feel my left hand getting much more agile and responsive.
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2005, 12:56 PM »

I guess it has already been mentioned, but it's worth repeating - remember to do all exercises both starting with stronger and starting with weaker hand. Find what's the greatest speed for your single stroke roll for example (using a metronome of course), and then try to repeat starting with your weaker hand, and you'll see great difference.
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2005, 08:29 AM »

I also lift an 8-pound weight until my arm falls off (not literally). I only lift it with my left hand, though, as I want my left arm to get closer to being as good as my right. Thanx for the advice everyone! Smiley

This is a terrible idea.  It will not make your left hand any faster, and will probably lead to an injury.  If you had a teacher or followed the advice of the other experienced people here, you would know that arm strength has nothing to do with speed or control in drumming.  Try something simple, like researching the Cafe on speed and strength conditioning exercises, Bart has some great one's that only take 15 serious minutes a day.  If you continue down this path, you'll only hurt your drumming in the long run
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2005, 12:22 PM »

What's really annoying, is the mechanics of my left hand.  I'll try to excercise my left hand, especially fingers, and they won't get tired!  Which means they're not going to get stronger.  They when I do it with my right hand (good hand), it does get tired.  I don't get it!  What am I doing wrong!??
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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2005, 08:26 PM »

look at Dom Famularo's cyber lessons here.and I certainly don't cut my hi hat rod like that.
I did,cut that boy just low enough to where I can still put a cowbell or Hat Trick on it.I guess Dom`s wearing off on me. Weights are not the answer. Try this exercise for a few minutes everyday. Take a stick ,turn it around so it hits your forearm,do duples and triples against your forearm. Also like in Barts lesson,flat flams.
To build the drumming muscles take you fore finger and thumb,put them together lightly,like the ok sign.Bring the remaining three fingers into your palm,then extend all the way,open,close,open,close. Remember to bring them all the way in and extend all the way.  I am pretty sure your left will get tired in under two minutes.
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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2005, 01:54 PM »

awesome video lesson i found on Vic Firth's website:

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/technique/04doublestrokes.html

i like the "to-DAY" example.

heck, all of Mark Wessels' Rudimental Technique is pretty darn good to learn.
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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2005, 06:17 PM »

I live by what Wessel teaches. He has one of the best instructional segments on the www
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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2005, 09:00 PM »

This is a terrible idea.  It will not make your left hand any faster, and will probably lead to an injury.  If you had a teacher or followed the advice of the other experienced people here, you would know that arm strength has nothing to do with speed or control in drumming.  Try something simple, like researching the Cafe on speed and strength conditioning exercises, Bart has some great one's that only take 15 serious minutes a day.  If you continue down this path, you'll only hurt your drumming in the long run

You mean like the Endurance Method? I have been trying that, and doing it the way it says, but it doesn't seem to be helping. Do I have to do it on a drum, or can I do it on anything? Or am I not seeing improvement yet because I have only done it for about 10 days?

How much should it improve my speed AND my form in one month? I want more speed, but I also want better form. My tempo is fine (as long as I can hear and am paying attention to, the music), but my speed and form are bad enough to make a person puke. I'm sick of feeling like I'm stuck in one place.  Angry Cry Angry
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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2005, 03:04 PM »

You could try playing singles, doubles and paradiddles on a pillow or other non bouncy surface.
Get help from a professional drummer/teacher... they can give you better advice than any of us can! Maybe even check out The Bart for a video lesson- i've heard nothing but good things.
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« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2005, 05:45 PM »

Try this it works great. This will not only improve your left hand and left foot speed. It will also improve your right hand/foot speed and your over-all coordination

R=Right Hand
L=Left Hand
r=Right Foot
l=Left Foot

1.  RRRR
2.  LLLL
3.  rrrr
4.  llll
5.  RRLL
6.  rrll
7.  LLRR
8.  rrll
9.  RLRR
10. LRLL
11. rlrr
12. lrll
13. RrRr
14. LlLl
15. RLrl
16. LRlr
17. RrLl
18. LlRr
 
Repeat each one over and over again. At first go slow so you can make sure you are doing them right. After that just practice doing them as fast as you can.

This Next Drill will help you with your hands

19. RRRR LLLL RRLL RRLL RLRR LRLL RLRL LRLR RLRR LLRR LRLR

Try It Reversed:

20. LLLL RRRR LLRR LLRR LRLL RLRR LRLR LRLR LRLL RRLL RLRL

For Feet:

21. rrrr llll rrll rrll rlrr lrll lrlr lrlr lrll llrr llrr

Reversed

22. llll rrrr llrr llrr lrll rlrr rlrl rlrl rlrr rrll rrll
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