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« on: December 18, 2002, 01:05 PM »

I am just starting out on the doumbek and am wondering how to get a good stroke with my left(non-dominant) hand.  I play with the drum laying on its side across my left thigh.  The finger-snap just isn't fast enough and it is the only way I can get a good clear sound.  What is the basic stroke for the left hand?  Is it with the arm raised?  or is it just dropping a finger on the head while the wrist remains on the side of the drum?  

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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2002, 02:22 PM »

most of my left hand dumbek technique is just fingertips on the edge (or that sweet spot just inside the edge).  like you said "just dropping a finger on the head while the wrist remains on the side of the drum"  sometimes ill roll my first three fingers (my pinky is pretty useless  Grin )  i get most of my variety from my right hand and use the left to fill gaps and extend finger rolls that i start on my right hand.  sometimes ill lift my wrist to get a lower tone from the center of the head but rarely.  

ive got two dumbeks (or a dumbek and darabouka)  one is a turkish style with about an inch of rim and a 10.5 inch head.  my left hand can really only do the edge tap stuff on that drum.  my other is a smaller drum and my left hand fingers can reach in a little more to the center.

ive also been known to mount 'em on my kit which totally frees up both hands and i can play it like a djembe and get full range out of each hand.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2002, 02:33 PM »

I have my left arm resting on top/side of the drum ... with the basic TEK stroke being from the ring finger. That same finger is for snaps. All of this I'm sure you know already.

You can play DOUM with the left hand too. You lift your left elbow so that you can slide your left hand down into position to play the DOUM. With practice you should be able to play these quickly and effortlessly.

Just an FYI ... I have a beginning Doumbek lesson on my website ... in the Lesson pages. Not only is their notation and explanation, but there's also audio examples ... all enclosed within a PDF document.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2002, 04:15 PM »

Ok, I am TEKing with my ring finger only and it sound nice.  Problem is, I can't do it fast enough and my finger gets tired and weak.  

the pattern that is troubling me is

(1)DOUM   (ee)     (&)TEK    (ah)TEK  (2) repeat
(both left handed TEKS)

It's the two quick back to back TEKs that don't sound clear if I have the metronome higher that 100bpm.  Does this come with time?  Or do I need to hit the weights?  I am a flamenco guitarist and feel that my finger strength isn't the issue, .....it must be my technique.  
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2002, 05:36 PM »

When I play this, I whip the hand to play the TEK rather than just using the finger strength alone. The whipping action helps to get the volume for the speed being played.

Why are you only using the left hand for the TEK when you are playing such a simple, non-complex pattern as:

Doum  Tek-Tek

I would play DOUM with the right hand, the right hand for the first TEK, followed by the TEK in the left hand ... if you are playing the 1 &u or eighth-note followed by two sixteenth-notes.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2002, 01:23 PM »

I would play DOUM with the right hand, the right hand for the first TEK, followed by the TEK in the left hand ... if you are playing the 1 &u or eighth-note followed by two sixteenth-notes.

funny, id be more prone to alternate ... doum right, first tek left, second tek right.  seems it would give more time for your right hand to switch between the two ...

but thats just me.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2002, 01:42 PM »

funny, id be more prone to alternate ... doum right, first tek left, second tek right.  seems it would give more time for your right hand to switch between the two ...

but thats just me.


Actually it would give you less time. Remember the rhythm is eighth, followed by two sixteenths ... repeated over and over.

1 &u 2 &u 3 &u 4 &u

Doing it your way would mean you'd have to play the second TEK with the right hand and immediately jump to get the DOUM with the right hand. Doing it the way I described ... the right plays the DOUM on the downbeat, the TEK on the & ... then the left hand on the last sixteenth or uhh of the beat. The way I described you are just playing eighth-notes ... going DOUM - TEK -  ... etc., then putting the left hand TEK just after the first TEK and before the DOUM.

Make sense?  My way is MUCH easier.   Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2002, 01:55 PM »

ahhh ... my bad, i was reading his (2) wrong ... which of course means you are spot on right.   ill shut my yap now  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2005, 03:11 PM »

FYI ...

I created a basic Doumbec lesson in the VIP Lounge for download. It covers the Baladi and Maqsum rhythm, complete with notation and audio example.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2005, 05:53 PM »

I have some of suggestions.

If you're using "traditional" position........

Use a belt.  The drum will be more secure this way, so you won't have to worry about it falling off your leg.  Just tie it around your body, and your doumbek.  Something wide/and or padded is desired here, so you won't have too much pressure on sensitive/vital organ spots.

Use a stool or guitarist's leg rest on the leg that holds the drum up.  Now, you can bring your ka hand in from the lower side of the drum, rather than holding over the top.  This will be easier on the muscles in that arm.

I have a chronic problem with my left shoulder, and playing traditional position aggravated this.  So, now I'm playing my doumbek on a stand, which is angled away from me, like the position of a djembe, or the snare position of a very old school jazz drummer.  There are two advantages.  

For one, you don't have to hold the drum up.  The stand will do that for you.

Also, both hands are now equal.  The ka hand is no longer the weak partner, and you can easily play doums with it.

LP makes an adjustable stand that will  fit a doumbek, if you want to try this method.

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