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« on: September 04, 2002, 09:36 AM » |
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I'm again running into trouble with my practice space  and I'm thinking of getting electronic drums to practice on at home, with headphones. Does anybody out there do this? Can you develop chops this way? Are they really silent? ???I'm in a basement on a concrete floor so there won't be any vibration. Thanks. |
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aubiecat
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2002, 10:43 AM » |
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Yes, lot of people do this. A set with mesh heads( Roland V-Drums, Yamaha, Etc.) still gives you enough response to work on your chops. The only sounds you from the kit,without volume, is the thunking or tapping sound of the hi-hat and cymbals. What you get from the drums is less than most practice pads. Anyway you will like the almost unlimited number of sounds you can get from an electronic kit. You can get some of the fattest bass sounds!
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manoktrain
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2002, 11:43 AM » |
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Hi Sarah,
I recently purchased an electronic kit for similar reasons, I live in Oakland, CA and can't really afford the monthly fee on a studio for my acoustic set.
I've been working on rudiments for about a month and a half on it and I've seen a marked difference when I take my acoustic set out on weekends and play under the overpass for I580.
I'd highly recomend the company Hart.
you can look at all thier products at hartdynamics.com.
Because of my budget I picked up one of thier lower end kits, the prodigy, the kit itself runs around 500.00, and it does have mesh heads, they are just smaller in size compared to the $3,000 roland kits. And the triggers are of course a little lower in quality, but if all you want to do is practice on an electric kit, saving $ here isn't a real concern. If you want to eventually use it to play out, then I'd save money and go with Roland.
I do have a Roland TD-6 brain and it's great.
Another good thing about Hart kits is that they are completely compatible with all the Roland brains, as well as Alesis and any other brains that are out there.
Take a look at the website and you'll see that you could easily upgrade to Hart higher end triggers and pads for a fraction of the cost of Roland.
No disrespect to Roland at all, they are great drums, and an all around great company. They just don't fit into the budget as well.
Good luck, and don't be afraid about the electric kit holding back your progress on developing your skills.
A much bigger obstilce to your development would be not playing day after day because you don't have a space that you can do so.
Manoktrain.
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manoktrain
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2002, 11:58 AM » |
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Hey again.
I forgot to mention. If you haven't already, you might want to try simply playing your acoustic set with the foam rubber pads on them. I played that way for a long time until I moved into a building where even the thumping from the pads was annoying the nieghbors.
Obviously this is MUCH less expensive and if you are playing in a cement cellar it just might work, even the rubber pads for the cymbals do quite a bit for making them quiet.
Just a thought, if you really need to be more silent I would again recommend looking into the Hart kits.
Manocktrain.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2002, 12:07 PM » |
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I've been working on rudiments for about a month and a half on it and I've seen a marked difference when I take my acoustic set out on weekends and play under the overpass for I580. So you set up out on some street under the freeway somewhere?  F'ing cool idea... Plus probably would help to get rid of future stage fright.. |
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drummergirl
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2002, 12:44 PM » |
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Thanks for the advice.  They've told me I still have the drum space for now (its an empty warehouse at work they're trying to rent) but I'm going to look into electronic stuff and put some money away for it. I will look at Hartdynamics.com - thanks. There would be nothing worse than not playing at all I agree. |
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manoktrain
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2002, 01:06 PM » |
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Good luck with that Sarah,
Mr Dna, yeah, on weekends I'll set up under the highway, there is a huge parking lot there, I just take some old blankets and set up a five piece Pearl Export and have at it.
No matter how hard I play I'm no competition for the 18 wheelers going over my head. Not a bad set up other than lugging the kit to and fro.
Oh and I picked up that Buddy Rich approach to rudimental drumming book, so thanks again, it IS a great supplement to Stick Control as you said.
Manoktrain
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2002, 09:10 PM » |
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Sarah, I have a Roland V-Session for home use and it is very cool. Not only do you get full sized heads that have excellent response, you get about a thousand sounds to choose from.
The drums have positional sensing, so you can get a lot of nuances and textures by hitting the outer and inner parts of the heads, rim shots and cross sticking on the snare, as well as the sound changing with how hard you strike the drum.
The cymbals have up to three separate triggers, and swing very nicely when hit. The feel is rather close to the real thing. They can also be choked, and they, too use positional sensing to vary the sound depending upon where you hit them.
Are they as good as the real thing? That's not really the question, is it? The question was, can you work on your techniques and chops quietly -- yes you can!
If you decide to buy a set like this, I just want you to know that Music123.com gave me a vastly superior price than anyone else.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2002, 12:50 PM » |
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You can get a Roland kit for around a £1000, it has around 200 voices if not more. One decent thing about the roland is there is a 'one man' band voice, this plays a simple bass riff when ever you play your bass pedal. This is fun at first but can become boring. (Good for showing off to your mates!) The kits responce time is decent but can occasionaly and I stress this point rarly be out. On a whole is a very good buy!  |
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