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« on: February 17, 2005, 03:34 PM » |
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I am considering getting a cajon and wanted to see how many of you play them. If you do, what type of music do you play using them?
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2005, 05:54 PM » |
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Well... I'll raise a hand...  I play for fun at home and at church... which is also a lot of fun  . It's mostly western type pop/rock music, so for the most time I am trying to imitate drum set ... Bass drum and snare at least.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2005, 06:00 PM » |
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I am considering getting a cajon and wanted to see how many of you play them. If you do, what type of music do you play using them?
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I just recently got mine (check the review in the "Gear Review" thread) and I've found myself playing mostly Jungle/Drum and Bass/Glitchtronica style grooves on it. Its dry staccato tone and dirty edge really lends itself well to that. Will I do that live? Probably not. Studio? Oh yeah.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2005, 06:18 PM » |
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563, Great review and pictures by the way, thanks for all the work. I was wondering about those $60 dollar cajons...
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2005, 06:48 PM » |
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I've got a set of three. One box caja for the floor and a segundo & Quinto - pyramidic from fat conga. Love the sound of them! Got 'em from Musician's Friend from Bart's link,, really cheap! about $350 I think for all three?? Can't remember, but it was surely a good deal. We play mostly Yambu and Guarapachangueo on them. Very little Guaguanco since the drums seem to work better for that.
Yambu is awesome on the cajons though! Love the quinto!!! Yeah!
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2005, 09:40 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies. Fed - I play mostly in church and some smaller, 'unplugged' type gigs. So it sounds like you play similar type music as I would be. Would not really be playing any 'world music'. 563 - I read you review, great info. I was looking at that one before I saw your review. Now am really leaning toward it. I already have 2 djembes, so I guess I am trying to justify spending the money. Just didn't want to spend the money if it's basically the same sound as the djembes. Wife already thinks I have too many toys.... I have seen several guys using them with the smaller gigs in lieu of a full set and it sounded pretty good, so that's my idea for giving it a try.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2005, 07:27 AM » |
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JW Drums, I just wanted to say also that I usualy play cajon when there is no drummer. I guess if you had cajon without strings, you could pllay some bongo style patterns to compliment the drums. The flamenco or string cajon is less versitile in that respect IMHO (and Alex Acuna  ) . I said before that I like cajon much better for my situation then djembe, they are different instruments but in the same context, in small group with no drummer, I prefer cajon. Part of it I think also that most djembes I played had too "ringy" of a tone. specialy the Remo ones. Everytime I go to buy one I can't get over how I like the bass but realy dislike their open tone sound. So I and up not buying one ...  Alas, I am djembeless....  I did played one natural djembe at GC ones that had a very pleasant open tone and good bass too. It was on the smalll side but sounded great to my ears. Too bad I didn't have $150 at the time. but I digress.... I am going to shut-up now...  besides you already have two djembes and not trying to choose between cajon and and one... ok... starting now
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 09:00 AM » |
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Thanks for the info. That's good to know, becuase the one I was looking at (the $60 Schalloch) has strings.... so maybe not what I need.
I also have a Remo and it does have a lot of ring. I had the pleasure of attending a djembe building workshop and was able to bulid my own, except for the shells, which were imported. It sounds awesome and has little to no ring.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2005, 11:28 AM » |
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Ok, I forgot to mention that my cajon is flamenco one with strings, and by it self with no drums I like it a lot because the snares give it some sustain and fill the music a little better then a cajon without strings with dryer sound. Again this is with no drummer when I am primary rythm, with the drummer I just wouldn't know what to play on my cajon (but someone else might  ) ... It's all MHO so don't give up on that stringed cajon yet. Specialy for that price. Just wanted to make sure you don't misunderstand me... 
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2005, 11:35 AM » |
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Cool, that's how I would be playing. In an unplugged, acoustic type setting with no drummer. So it sounds like it might me a good tool ('toy') to add after all. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2005, 12:24 PM » |
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Thanks for the info. That's good to know, becuase the one I was looking at (the $60 Schalloch) has strings.... so maybe not what I need. The strings can be removed. Its not an easy on/easy off situation, but it can be done. Thats also why I was going to install a headset still snare mechanism so the on/off will be easier as on the Meinl.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2005, 12:29 PM » |
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Yeah, I hate to remove them completely. Never know when you would want them again.
Let us know if you add the snare throw off how it goes.
I've almost convinced myself to order one before they are all gone.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2005, 07:17 PM » |
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Yes, I play the cajon.
I use it for my church as part of my setup.
I actually made it myself. It has a 14" sqauer bottom and a 12" square top.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2005, 03:56 PM » |
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A great thing to make yourself, It's just a box! Each one will have it's own sound.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2005, 11:13 PM » |
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I play two types of cajones. Peruvian Cajon, wich does not have the snares and i also play the flamenco cajon. I have been making cajones for more than 5 years now. I sell them also. I have seen some being sold for 60 dollars but they are just a box, that mainly sounds just like a conga drum, wich to me it is not a cajon. I make myself the real flamenco cajon wich has a very beautiful wet sound and a great bass. The peruvian cajon has more of the base and the slaping sound on the corners that after Paco de Lucia used one of them, now peruvians make them open on the side for the cracking sound. They are two different cajones but both have a great sound. The cuban cajon to me it is not a true cajon, it is what is called a Caja, that now they call it cajon to be able to compet with the peruvian and flamenco cajon that is something else. ' I play South American folk and Nouveau Flamenco with my drums. Accompanied by classical guitars. The sound is outstanding. If some of you are interested you may contact me with a PM. Usually i make them 18x13x12 or 18x12x12. A real cajon is made of solid wood not plywood, but now a days plywood seems to be the wood of choice of many cajon makers. Plywood is a bit more cheaper than solid wood, but the acoustics of solid wood is far beyond better than plywood. Although i play both and both are really nice. My two cents
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2005, 08:28 AM » |
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trauco233 welcome to the forum.
Thats some great info. I never new real cajons were not from plywood. Makes sence though, since cajon been around probably longer then plywood.
Hm.. how long was plywood around?
You wouldn't have any sound samples of your instruments.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2005, 11:17 AM » |
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Welcome to the Cafe. What type wood do you make your cajons out of?
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2005, 12:17 PM » |
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I believe the caja (box) and cajon (crate) come from the same historical origins, the wooden shipping crates and boxes of the colonial time.
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2005, 01:53 PM » |
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I make peruvian cajones and flamenco cajones out of birch plywood, and i also make them out of mahogany or cedar solid wood. Cedar though is a very acoustic wood, but mohagany is also nice. The ones that i make out of birch they have very nice sounds also and are a bit cheaper than solid wood ones. I will be on tonight again. If you are interested just leave me a message. I will give more info tonight since now i am at work and do not have a lot of time. See you guys again. Nice to find a forum like this one.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2005, 02:56 PM » |
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Trauco -
I would like to know more. You can PM me if you like.
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