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Author Topic: Which drummer(s)'s technique have you most incorporated into your drumming???  (Read 4945 times)
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« on: February 24, 2005, 11:43 AM »

For me, it would have to be Mike Portnoy. I use his style for doing fills. What he does is this thing between the hands and feet. In one of Dream Theater's first famous songs, Pull Me Under, he does one leading out of the guitar solo and into the final chorus. It goes like this(these are all 32nd notes, and sound much faster and harder than they really are): Snare-Snare-Kick-Kick-Snare-Snare-Snare-Snare-Snare-Snare-Kick-Kick-Snare-Snare-Kick-Kick-Snare-Snare-Snare-Snare-Kick-Kick-Tom-Tom-Tom-Tom-Kick-Kick-Tom-Tom-Kick-Kick. It sound very cool. I also have incorporated his stick spinning technique(between the fingers) into my playing. I also like to do triplets on double bass like he does.

But aside from playing, I have many influences in tuning. I like to tune my toms like Mike Portnoy(with a really tight, deep, punchy, low-pitched sound), my snare like Portnoy's(with the snares a bit tighter), but with my bass drum, I go for more of a John Bonham type thing(a low pitched, boomy, punchy sound), but a bit lower pitched than him.

What are your influences in drumming?
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2005, 12:39 PM »

 Cool For me as i listen to a great amount of fusion and funk based music I'd have to say Dennis Chambers,Rodney Holmes,Keith Carlock,Adam Deitch,Steve Hass and since I utilize dbl pedals in my palying I am influenced by again Dennis,Mike Mangini,Virgil Donati, and Thomas Lang.I of course don't have their musical genuis but try to practice their techniques and apply them in my own way.
Combined with the aforementioned I have certain grooves that always seem to inspire me to greater heights for example:
Tony Williams-Maiden Voyage

Buddy Rich-Sister Sadie

Joe Morello-Take Five

Kenny Clarke-Manteca

Clyde Stubblefield,Jabo Starks-Sex Machine

Michael Bland-Sexy M.F

Harvey Mason-Chameleon

Dennis Chambers-Otay (Outbreak)

Dave Garibaldi-The Oakland Zone
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2005, 12:54 PM »

Lots of drummers have influenced me, but in terms of specific techniques I've incorporated, I'd say Steve Gadd, Terry Bozzio, Tony Williams, Ringo, Russ Kunkel, Buddy Rich, Steve Smith, Vinnie Colaiuta, Stewart Copeland, John Von Ohlen, Peter Erskine, Jeff Porcaro, Larrie Londin, Hal Blaine, Liberty DeVitto, Myron Grombacher, Bill Stewart, Vinnie Appice, Steve Jordan, John Bonham, Mike Baird, Max Roach, Elvin Jones, and Carl Palmer. Off the top of my head, that is.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2005, 01:05 PM »

John Bonham
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2005, 01:13 PM »

Ron Wilson.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2005, 03:10 PM »

Stewart Copeland, Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon, Richie Hayward, Clyde Stubblefield and Jabo Starks.

Surely more, but I think those represent my sound pretty well.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2005, 03:19 PM »

Eddie Prevost, Gerry Hemmingway, Hamid Drake.   Intentionally anyway.   Any other moves I've copped have been accidental/subconcious.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2005, 03:52 PM »

I've been told that people hear a little of John Bonham, Stewart Copeland, Jeff Porcaro and maybe Dave Weckl in my playing.
I can't say this all intentional, I'd like to be known for my own style but I guess through osmosis one's influences come out.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2005, 04:26 PM »

Felix

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2005, 06:27 PM »

i've noticed a lot of tre cool (green day) in my drumming as well as a lot of the classic influences such as mitch mitchell and keith moon.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2005, 09:33 PM »

I've borrowed from probably every drummer I'ver seen, heard, and admired, and although I don't do their techniques justice, these drummers still influence me today:

Ed Shaughnessey
Louis Bellson
Buddy Rich
Danny Seraphine
Karen Carpenter
Hal Blaine
Don Brewer
Steve Smith's jazz stuff
Steve Gadd
Tris Imboden
Any and all of Zappa's drummers

Sadly, I have no particular inspiration for stick twirling.   Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2005, 09:36 PM »

This brings me to a feeling of revulsion.  I'm not sure exactly why.  Maybe it's that no one can be themselves these days, like we have to absorb pieces of others to become whatever it is we see ourselves as.  It seems to me like eventually it's all going to become so inbred, personality-wise, that there will be a precious few individuals.

Just to take a tangent...
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2005, 09:40 PM »

This brings me to a feeling of revulsion.  I'm not sure exactly why.  Maybe it's that no one can be themselves these days, like we have to absorb pieces of others to become whatever it is we see ourselves as.  It seems to me like eventually it's all going to become so inbred, personality-wise, that there will be a precious few individuals.

Just to take a tangent...

Yeah, I can see your point.  But ya know what's cool?  When my students emulate my technique.  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2005, 09:46 PM »

OK, I'll be the first to admit it.......Gene Krupa. He had some good solo chops with accents during rolls and the "jungle sound" tom work from the big band days. Like they said, "Swing is King."
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2005, 09:50 PM »

This brings me to a feeling of revulsion.  I'm not sure exactly why.  Maybe it's that no one can be themselves these days, like we have to absorb pieces of others to become whatever it is we see ourselves as.  It seems to me like eventually it's all going to become so inbred, personality-wise, that there will be a precious few individuals.

Just to take a tangent...

Random, look at it this way. You just wrote a post that expresses how YOU feel. YOU - not somebody else. But you did it using letters, language, and grammar that you did not create. Somebody else did. Still, that didn't stop you from forming and expressing thoughts that are uniquely your own. And you did so without the hassle of having to invent your own alphabet, language, and syntax.

That's what we're talking about here. I can learn Steve Gadd licks all day long, but I still won't sound like he does. So when I combine those licks with Alex Van Halen licks, and John Von Ohlen licks, and Larrie Londin licks, and then play them using MY arms, legs, and musical instincts, it's gonna sound like ME.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that being influenced by somebody somehow contaminates you. All the great artists, thinkers, writers, etc., built their work on the influences of those whose work touched them most profoundly. It's the height of egotism to presume that everything you do is original. Be humble enough to admit that others influence you, and then take those influences and do something unique with them.

To be "revulsed" by this is to deny the impact of those who have doubtless already influenced you, either consciously or unconsciously.

I've seen your setup. It's not original. Other people put the snare between their legs, and play the bass drum with their right foot. You didn't think of that, nor invent that. But that's okay.

Similarly, it's okay to be influenced by other drummers. To pretend you're not is to be either naive or a hypocrite.

Lighten up, and admit that there's something to be learned from others.
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2005, 10:07 PM »

Random, look at it this way. You just wrote a post that expresses how YOU feel. YOU - not somebody else. But you did it using letters, language, and grammar that you did not create. Somebody else did. Still, that didn't stop you from forming and expressing thoughts that are uniquely your own. And you did so without the hassle of having to invent your own alphabet, language, and syntax.

That's what we're talking about here. I can learn Steve Gadd licks all day long, but I still won't sound like he does. So when I combine those licks with Alex Van Halen licks, and John Von Ohlen licks, and Larrie Londin licks, and then play them using MY arms, legs, and musical instincts, it's gonna sound like ME.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that being influenced by somebody somehow contaminates you. All the great artists, thinkers, writers, etc., built their work on the influences of those whose work touched them most profoundly. It's the height of egotism to presume that everything you do is original. Be humble enough to admit that others influence you, and then take those influences and do something unique with them.

To be "revulsed" by this is to deny the impact of those who have doubtless already influenced you, either consciously or unconsciously.

I've seen your setup. It's not original. Other people put the snare between their legs, and play the bass drum with their right foot. You didn't think of that, nor invent that. But that's okay.

Similarly, it's okay to be influenced by other drummers. To pretend you're not is to be either naive or a hypocrite.

Lighten up, and admit that there's something to be learned from others.

What he said!!!    Acro is usually right on the money.. thats why we love him so much.. Grin Wink
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2005, 08:54 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2005, 08:59 AM »

Acro is usually right on the money.. thats why we love him so much.. Grin Wink

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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2005, 11:16 AM »

I play what I play. Various grooves, fills, quirks, and other nuiances from the drummers in the music to which I listen most frequently naturally slip in there. Very rarely do I ever literally copy one idea or another, though I do take the time to figure out how to play a particular lick or groove. I do this not so I can replicate it, but rather for the sake of exploring. To the extent that it's reasonably possibly, I do not play canned fills, whether I developed them or I stole them from somebody else. I just play what I play.

The most interesting influence in my development is probably that of listening to a considerable amount of Weird Al Yankovic. Since half of the songs are parodies for which Bermuda usually copies the original, I feel the influence of a whole assortment of drummers. Meanwhile, the originals also affect me.

Since I'm more of a concert percussionist who specializes in the drum set than a "drummer" that also greatly influences my style. Currently, I'm taking lessons at college with an emphasis on rudimental snare drumming. So probably the strongest of all influences in my style on the drum kit is my rudimental background.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2005, 11:44 AM »

I steal licks from....er, uh, I'm "heavily influenced" by lot's of guys but if I had to choose just one, it would probably be Carter Beauford.  I do a lot of his displaced hihat stuff without even thinking about it.
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