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« on: March 02, 2005, 07:12 PM » |
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I've had the good fortune over the years to play drums in the pit for several local theatre productions (i.e. "Waiting For Guffman").
As hokey as these things can often be, I still had a lot of fun. And because of the "anything can happen" factor, I believe the experience made me a better listener, more observant, and a better drummer.
I've played: Oliver Godspell A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum How to Succeed in Bisuness... West Side Story Dang Yankees Music Man Guys and Dolls Pirates of Penzance The Mikado Ruddigore HMS Pinafore Trial by Jury Gondoliers
Who else has stories from the pit?
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2005, 07:30 PM » |
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I played Guys and Dolls for the high school music when I was a senior. We had two drummer/percussionists, so I didn't do it exclusively. We had a lot of fun up in the pit, though. Yes, I said "up in the pit." Our auditorium does not have a true pit, so the orchestra was on lofts off to the side of the stage. We both survived all of the ascents and descents on the stairs of death.
I can't think of any music experience I've had that I loved more, nor can I think of one that I hated more. Especially at that level, the singers can't stay in time to save their life. The orchestra partially blocked our view of the conductor, and we had to turn awkwardly to see him. Fortunately, we couldn't really hear the singers too well. The conductor made us agree that if the orchestra was going to be wrong, we would be wrong together and with the conductor.
Musicals are strangely fun, especially in the pit. It's a strange satisfaction to be an integral part of the show, and yet to be completely invisible to the audience. We didn't even get to take a bow because we were playing at the end. Some people in the audience at our production thought that the background music was playing from a recording. Everybody else is running around in costumes and make-up, while we all wore t-shirts and gym shorts. We went to the cast parties, but we weren't exactly part of the cast. Something about that whole idea is strangely satisfying to me.
I would definitely love to play in a pit orchestra again, but I can't say pit orchestras are my goal as a drummer.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2005, 07:36 PM » |
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Pit work is great, and very challenging. I've done 1776, Fiddler on the Roof, My Fair Lady, Bye Bye Birdie, The Mikado, Music Man, and a couple others that escape me.
Plus I've played a lot of production shows accompanying Broadway or Vegas-style troupes of singers and dancers. I love the pressure, the fast pace, and the energy of this kind of work!
Shows I always wanted to play but never had a chance to: West Side Story and Jesus Christ Superstar.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2005, 07:39 PM » |
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Shows I always wanted to play but never had a chance to: West Side Story and Jesus Christ Superstar.
Ditto - JC Superstar. I bet that show would be a lot of fun to do.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2005, 07:57 PM » |
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I've done a lot of pit-work over the years, although not that much lately. As you know, depending on the work, it was percussion or drumset ... or both, which was always the most fun for me. I love having to cover all these different parts all at the same time (ie. drumset and xylophone). Talk about developing your 4-way independence! The shows I've played are as follows: - Iphigenia (World Premier)
- Columbus (World Premier)
- Into the Woods
- Don Pasquale
- Die Fledermaus
- Susannah
- Big River
- The Marriage of Figaro
- Anything Goes
- The Royal Hunt of the Sun (music director / soloist)
- Follies
- Sister Angelica
- The Old Maid and the Thief
- Cinderella
- You're a Good Man Charlie Brown (twice)
- The Best Little Whore House in Texas
- Sweeney Todd
- Babes in Toyland
- Working
- Grease
- Show Boat
- The Nut Cracker (5 seasons)
The most enjoyable experience for me is easily The Royal Hunt of the Sun. I was the music director for this production ... and the sole musician. I had a enormous set-up of percussion instruments and played delicate to the bombastic. Lot's of energy and power throughout the piece; much of it was improvised. I won an award for that as well, although the production company kept it. I also was involved in the world premier of two different productions; Iphigenia and Columbus. Both were fun to play and had a nice run. At the time, Iphigenia was especially enjoyable because I spent much of the time watching the solo Soprano.  I was single at the time, and we dated. We had a nice run too.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2005, 08:24 PM » |
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At North Texas, I was the drama department drummer. Over the years, I have played many high school, college, and community theater productions. Lots of fun, great experience, and some good money at times. Shows include:
The Boyfriend You're a Good Man, Chalie Brown The Music Man Mame Oklahoma Lil Abner Company Princess Alice ( an original musical) One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (like Bart, I was the sole musician/composer)
Ended up doing some acting in minor roles (like the telephone repairman in Barefoot in the Park). At the University of Nebraska, my involvement in shows led to a call from the dance department to improvise percussion accompaniment to a dance recital choreographed by a guest artist. That led to a steady gig accompanying dance classes, studied ballet, jazz and modern dance myself, and composed the music for a Masters candidate's Thesis recital.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2005, 10:31 PM » |
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Shows I always wanted to play but never had a chance to: West Side Story and Jesus Christ Superstar.
I had the privelege of doing drumset for a one-week run of 'The West Side-Story' this past summer. It was a great experience. I've got my 2nd major musical production coming up in two weeks. It's for a show called 'Camelot' and should be quite challenging. All the parts are played on keyboards (except my drumset part) and they keep speeding up! Those darn piano players.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005, 05:19 AM » |
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Well, at the age of nearly 47 and a huge two years into my drumming "rebirth" after a 28 year hiatus that basically meant I was starting from scratch, I am just doing my first "pit" gig (it's not a pit, actually: the band is at the back of the stage). We're doing "And the World Goes 'Round" the songs of John Kander and Fred Ebb (who sadly died last year). I am having an indecently good time doing it. The material is stretching me (both in reading and playing skills); I'm surrounded by hugely capable musicians of all ages (apart from the guy who steps in to play "Kiss of the Spider Woman" while the MD, who normally directs from the piano stool, sings it). Cast and players are of all ages, and it is the most gloriously meritocratic environment with, for example, a 14-year old 'bonist as highly-regarded as the MD in musicianship (his sight-reading skills leave most of us dumbfounded). The enthusiasm of cast and band is just so addictive it should be a controlled substance. We did over 12 hours work yesterday, with the day spent rehearsing and then a full dress rehearsal in the evening ... and felt I could have done more (though boy was I bushed when I unwound). Three performances starting tonight. Bring 'em on!
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2005, 06:04 AM » |
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Yeah in my stagehand years I did a few shows where we set the orchestra up in the theater boxes flanking and above the stage, I always thought it was weird.
One show I worked, I think it was Mame, the drummer was actually beneath the pit. We set up this entire drumset/percussion set up, miced it, and surrounded it with drapes. Then we set up a camera and video moniter. The drummer could only see the conductor via the monitor. Talk about being invisible. He'd show up to pictures and parties wearing sweats and everyone would be like, "...and you are?"
My theatrical performance experience consists of only one show. It was an original production at a university. But the play took place in a night club, so they had the band on stage with them. It was more of a rock band thing and I got to play the part of the drummer. It was kind of cool, because you're not only playing but you're playing a character, in costume and makeup, and actors and dancers are all around you. And the music was really great, very theatrical and beatnick-y for 2 hours straight. I think it played for about a month.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2005, 06:13 AM » |
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I've only done "lower budget" pit work,--school, church, community theater-- but thoroughly enjoyed it.
It can turn a drummer into a percussionist in a snap!
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2005, 08:44 AM » |
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Congratulations on your accomplishment! I wish you the best! I hope you have a great time. Adam's Dad
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2005, 09:29 AM » |
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I've played many stage musicals throughout my career starting with a minstrel type show while I was in the 7th grade. That got me hooked! Since then I have played in the following (although I'm sure I've left a few out):
You're a Good Man Charlie Brown South Pacific 1776 Sweeney Todd Grease How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying Delusion of the Fury - Harry Partch
I have also had the good fortune to conduct the following: Oklahoma Guys and Dolls Music Man Man of Lamancha
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2005, 11:17 AM » |
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2005, 03:40 PM » |
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Although being new to the drumming world I have not played in the "pits", I thought I'd relay a story my teacher told me just last week.
He was invited backstage at a Sunday matinee of "Movin Out", the Billy Joel musical on Broadway. The drummer that day, Joe Bergamini had done a Tama clinic at the music store where I take lessons and invited him.
Anyways, long story short, he said the music sounded great and was a bunch of top notch musicians from famous bands around the area who do matinees while still being able to peform their night gigs.
Without hijacking the thread, I was wondering if anyone else had similar experiences, or if you were the local pros who got to do their night jobs during the day like this?
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2005, 08:05 AM » |
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I've had a limited experience with this type of work, but what I have done, I enjoyed. When I was younger, I played the following shows:
Godspell Phantom of the Opera Oklahoma
Godspell was fun because the director felt the band was as important to the show as any of the other characters, so she had a riser built across the back of the stage where we were setup throughout the show.
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