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I went to the Wednesday clinic in Memphis and enjoyed the heck out of it! My first stop when I got into town was Memphis Drum Shop, to purchase tickets. Mr. Gadd's bus was parked right in front! He was very casually sitting behind the counter signing autographs for everyone. Between the impressive inventory (it's a VERY nice shop) and being kinda star-struck, I was pretty much in a daze. But I managed to shake his hand and get an autograph. He seems to be extremely down to earth, and a genuinely nice guy.
He was equally laid-back during the clinic, discussing recording sessions and other experiences as comfortably as if we were all in his living room at home. Most of the questions were good ones, and there were no interruptions. His discussion of getting the call to do Aja was particularly interesting. Of course, the main thing was to hear him PLAY! He did a brief breakdown of the Mozambique groove, then played it for over a minute, moving various parts around on the kit. This demonstration alone made attending worth the effort!
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2005, 11:47 PM » |
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I just saw him on Saturday in Kansas City. I was at Explorer's percussion, an awesome KC drum shop, earlier that day. Zildjian was there showcasing some prototype cymbals, many of which were really cool. Anyway, My friend and I are about to leave the shop when we overhear, "yeah, Steve should be here in about 45 minutes." Needless to say, we decided to stick around.  So 45 and then some minutes later, Steve Gadd walks into the building, welcomed by warm cheers from the excited crowd of drummers. Everyone seemed to be caught by suprise, as we were all expecting the autograph session to be after the clinic. We were all privileged to meet the man, talk to him, and get an autograph. I will now proudly display in my house a Zildjian Steve Gadd poster personally autographed to me.  Later that night was the actual clinic, which I really enjoyed. It did, however, essentially follow the same format as everyone else described, with a lengthy question-and-answer session. Russ Miller was in attendance, which the MC made note of at the beginning of the clinic, and one guy asked if Russ would play some as well, even though it was Steve's clinic. Steve seemed excited and delighted by the idea, pulling a very reluctant Russ on stage. I'll admit I hadn't previously heard of Russ Miller, but I am now impressed. He finally agreed to play a sort of brush duet with Steve, each taking one of Steve's floor toms. Steve laid down a groove while Russ added some sweet patterns and fills, and then both locked into some really tight licks together. At the end of the show, Steve was presented with a cake in honor of his birthday and the crowd sang him happy birthday. I really don't think enough can be said about Steve Gadd and his playing. It's so awesome to see him actually play. Also of interest, I don't think he was playing his Session line of cymbals. He had that prototype 18" K ride, then 18" K and K custom crases (I believe). Awesome drummer. Awesome clinic. Awesome experience as a whole. Oh man!
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i think the clinic was really good i love to watch steve play his kit. i was a little bummed cause alot of what he was doing was really easy so i did not learn a whole lot but he is really good at drumming. the questions some of people were asking were a little too easy but i enjoyed it and it was thriling to watch him play!!
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2005, 09:20 AM » |
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cool reading. thanks folks. glad y'all got to attend. 
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2005, 04:11 PM » |
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Caught the meet-and-greet at the Drum Pad during the afternooon and the clinic last night in Chicago (also ran into rhythmist - nice you meet you, sir!). Steve graciously signed autographs, posed for photos and generally hung out at the store answering questions. What a soft-spoken, humble guy (and quite a bit shorter than I realized!). I asked him how the tour was going - he said "I'm seeing some great drum shops and meeting a lof of nice people. It's been fun." Zildjian brought quite an array of production and prototype cymbals for everyone to check out. They had them set up outside the shop on stands, and then again at the clinic. And the Zildjian reps were equally happy to talk with us. Drum Pad bought the display stuff, and Steve signed all but the prototypes. The cymbals are being offered for a special price if you're in the area. I heard there were 600+ at the clinic last night. Steve opened with some brushwork while humming/singing "Bye-Bye Blackbird". Then onto some stick work for a few minutes. The bulk of the clinic was Q&A. He was particularly gracious to kids (there were a lot of them there!). He played all the stuff he was asked to play slow enough so us mortals could try to tap it out on our knees. After which he sat down, played the patterns at the proper tempos, and promptly dashed all our hopes.  There were a couple of sycophants in the crowd who asked lengthy questions that resulted in groans from the audience, but Steve handled them all graciously. One guy asked a question about brushwork, and then promptly got up on stage so he could watch Steve's demonstration from behind. Alrighty then. Here are a couple of shots. My apologies for not getting anything of the clinic, I was sitting too far back to click off anything decent. The Zildjian Gadd tour bus parked at Drum Pad:  ----- DaveFromChicago and Mr Gadd at the shop: 
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2005, 02:07 PM » |
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As was already mentioned, much of what Steve Gadd did in his clinic was straight from his videos ... In Session and Up Close. He opened up with "Bye Bye Blackbird" ... next was "Legend of the One-Eyed Sailor" ... both of which are on video. He played "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover" as well as his signature Samba and Mozambique grooves. It was great getting to see Steve play again; it's been quite awhile for me. Here in Nashville, we had some people come up and play ... but the difference was that they were invited to the stage by Steve. All in all ... everyone was very respectful of Steve, but there were many questions that could have been answered simply by watching Steve's videos. If you've never got a chance to see Steve play, you need to treat yourself. If anyone thinks what Steve plays is simple ... well, they clearly have a limited understanding of what a real pocket is. Search a little deeper and you'll find that there's a lot more to drumming than speed and the number of notes you can place within the span of one quarter-note. Lastly, I just got off the phone with Fork's Drum Closet and they said that there were 750 people in attendance for the Nashville clinic. It looked a lot more than that to me, I would have guessed twice that many.  I missed the signing party prior to the clinic, so no personal photos are autographs for me.
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2005, 06:58 PM » |
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Me and my son went to see Steve at a high school auditorium in West Allis WI yesterday. I'll try to not reiterate too much of what was said in the other thread on his earlier clinics.
-Showed up on stage to standing ovation from audience -Played brush solo for about 5-7 minutes -Played funk/soul grooves on high hat with his typical sixteenth ghosting craziness -Played fast tom/bass/snare fills ala Aja
Got up and talked. Spoke about his being in the army band to get out of going to Vietnam, hooking up with Tony Levin who he went to college with after getting out of the army who in the meantime had made all kinds of connections in NY which basically started him on the whole session drummer kick.
Questions were asked about:
-How do you practice before you play? Steve proceeded to bend down and play a full rudimental workout on the stage with his sticks to applause at the end. EVERY non accented or accented note sounded even, you don't see guys with this much consistency everyday. Anyway my drum teacher was there and wrote down the workout I'll try to post it later.
-Was Aja really in one take? This is an old story but what I heard that was new was that Steely Dan had several other drummers come in and try to nail it but they weren't getting the results they wanted. By the time Steve came in the band was really tight and Steve just had a "magical moment" where he nailed it right away because he wasn't just playing to a click and the band was really easy to lock in with.
-Can you play the Groove from Nite Sprite? The answer was "No". He went on to explain that alot of the more complicated stuff with Corea that he recorded was very inspired by the musicians around him "Most of the songs we were doing then didn't even have names - it was like Track 1, Track 2. I don't go home and practice this stuff after I lay it down, I go home and practice Tony (Williams)".
-He broke down his 6 stroke roll and ratamacue patterns everyone's seen on his videos when asked how he came up with the fills at the end of Aja. He got into how he started breaking up parts of the sticking on different drums and eventually ended up with what he played but again said it was inspirational.
-When asked who his influences are he listed basically every jazz great, and every modern great. He said if he could he would come to all our concerts and sneak behind us so he can watch what we play, then go home and practice it. Gave a talk about how everything he plays is inspired or has been done by someone else and that is part of the craft - very down to earth.
-Did the mozambique patterns after someone asked about late in the evening. He went off on it for about 4 minutes though doing triplet stuff between the high hat and bass drum with his feet underneath it and shuffling around on the floor toms - very cool.
-What's your bass drum technique? He pulled his chair out from behind the kit, sat down and demonstrated sliding toe and heel to toe technique with one and both feet. Another younger guy asked him something about hardcore bass drumming and Gadd sat behind the kit and played a solo with double bass that would put any would-be metal drummer to shame, so much more tasty and hip than most of the cr*p I hear from double bass drummers.
At one point he asked the crowd to clap a clave pattern and solo'd over us for about 6 minutes. I had to stop clapping after a while because I wanted to hear what he was playing better. The grooves and fills he played against the audience were amazing.
He also demonstrated a samba feel in 16ths he got from watching Airto and explained how seeing Rick Marotta for the first time with a band made him seek "groove" and trying to play simply. One thing he said cracked me up "I was playing with some guys that were into soul and I would just keep playing the same thing and everyone totally dug what was going on. If I tried to throw in some jazzy fill or something they would turn around to me and say 'Man, what would you want to do that for when it feels so good?'" lol.
All in all I was expecting to see a tired Gadd but was surprised that other than him being a bit winded after his first solo (he had signed autographs for several hours before the clinic) he was playing very fast and tight.
My son got a little tired and bored about halfway through but they started an hour late. He dug alot of it though. Definately go see Gadd if you get a chance I can't think of a better person to go see his feel is just great.
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2005, 03:16 AM » |
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Great write-up, eavonius, thanks very much for posting it.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2005, 06:26 AM » |
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Awesome thread.
Steve looks good!
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2005, 07:51 AM » |
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I just saw Steve at Burgettstown (Pittsburgh) last night and it was great. He pretty much did what everybody else has already listed, but it was a treat nontheless. I'm also surprised that I actually did come away with some stuff he was talking about. I'll be practicing a good bit of it in the following few weeks. Like most of the other people, the Q&A's are a little tedious (somebody asked him if he actually played his double bass pedal right after he did a solo. Didnt this person just watch him? Whatever). Anyhow, my wife did take some great pics of him on her cell phone and hopefully I can try to post them if I ever figure it out how.
They said that there is only two more clinics (somewhere in Kentucky and Columbus, Ohio), but if you can, treat yourself and go see him.
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2005, 08:02 AM » |
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Here's the linup for the Columbus show:
Steve Gadd (Paul Simon, Eric Clapton, James Taylor) Giovanni Hidalgo (Dizzy Gillespie, Art Blakey, Paul Simon) Simon Phillips (Toto, The Who) Billy Kilson (Dave Holland Group, Bob James) Dave DiCenso (Steve Morse, Berklee College of Music)
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This was Columbus' Pro Percussion's 10th annual Drum Daze and they had been trying to get Gadd for 10 years. Apparently he just finished with Chick and had 2 weeks before James Taylor, so they booked 12 clinic dates. Let me just say that 7 hours is a long time to sit still for anything so I didn't see every minute of everything but here's how the day went. The show started with a demo of they latest Roland e-kit by Johnny Rabb, http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Johnny_Rabb.html. Apparently he holds a speed record for most strokes in 60 seconds. He could do amazing things with single hand triplets and roughs. The kit sounded amazing and used alot of "step" sequencing to create full instrumental arrangements. Next was Dave DiCenso http://www.davedicenso.com/ he talked alot idea generation and possible ways to play patterns with rudiment augmentation without changing the beat flow. Probably the most I walked away from the clinic with. Billy Kilson, http://www.billykilson.com/ came next. The guy was all over the place, played with 3 other guys. He seemed like he couldn't sit still and his style was simply blazing. For the percussionists there was Giovanni Hidalgo http://www.congahead.com/Musicians/Meet_Musicians/Hidalgo/hidalgo.htmlPlayed some pretty incredible Conga and Timbale solos. Simon Phillips, http://www.simon-phillips.com/ What can I say, if you know who he is then you know how he is. Played incredibly, seemed like a really nice guy. Talked a bit about playing with the Who and Toto. It was nice to see something he hadn't completely worked out, he did a 7 against 9 thing ostinato and then changed his ride pattern over it. Steve Gadd http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/artists/artistDetail.ad2?artistID=1138, just like everyone else said, Bye Bye Blackbird, talked about 50 Ways, the Mozambique, soloed over the audience clapping a 2/3 clave part. Incredibly laid back but inspirational. As far as Q&A there wasn't a groaner in the bunch. Talked about nervousness, the session biz, what he practices on his own. Told some kid alot about ways of finding your own identity as a drummer, to which everyone applauded. Nice to see a 60 yo in cut off cammie shorts, T-shirt and sneakers speaking casually to a theater of drummers. Overall, everybody pretty much followed the same "Play a solo, Talk, Play some more" format. I thought everyone could've cut WAY down on the length of solos they played. Except (Gadd) the one guy I wanted to hear play alot, didn't. Incidently when I got home and told my 6 yo where I had been all day, seeing a bunch of famous drummers play in front of other drummers, his response was "Did they have tattoos, and did they have hairstyles?" Well yes, some did.
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Thanks for the good overview, shoeless. For the most part, that would be my assessment as well. It was great to see all those excellent musicians, but by the end of the 7-hour event, I was pretty tired.
One thing I was pleased to see reaffirmed was that great professional musicians are still "real people." They drop sticks, occasionally miss drumheads or cymbals, and sometimes can have arguably boring solo sections. Yippee! (I've got those things down). Yet they can still knock our socks off with taste and chops (I'm still working on that). I was motivated by both of those aspects of their performances.
By the way, shoeless, where were you? I looked for any other Cafe members, but had no luck. I was in the second main section from the stage, second row.
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By the way, shoeless, where were you? I looked for any other Cafe members, but had no luck. I was in the second main section from the stage, second row.
I would have been just to the right of you. House right second section up. I was right behind the guy who asked about the ching-ring part in 50 Ways. Sadly I don't have any Drummer Cafe garb 
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Sadly I don't have any Drummer Cafe garb  There's a way of fixing that, up there, on the right, third entry down in the "Café Menu" ... 
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There's a way of fixing that, up there, on the right, third entry down in the "Café Menu" ...  I knew someone would bite 
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2005, 07:24 PM » |
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My friend went and he tried to get me to go.
I didn't get home til 6 am sunday and I was in no mood for a day of drum clinics.
Anyways, he called me and told me about it:
He said Simon Phillips kicked butt- very articulate *I've seen Simon a few times and was always amazed*
He said Gadd was a drag and wished he had the 1.5 hours back of his life.
He said his pocket sounded real "greasy" whatever that means.
He also said it was his last stop and Steve is not a good spokesperson.
I just report the news- I don't write it.
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He said Gadd was a drag and wished he had the 1.5 hours back of his life.
He also said it was his last stop and Steve is not a good spokesperson.
Yeah, I'll admit, there was point I actually thought, "This guy's sooooo laid back, he's gonna fall asleep onstage." But he's obviously content with things and he talked about praying and meditating, so he's probably really centered. I hope that I can be as well.
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Anybody who wants an hour and a half back that he spent in Gadd's presence is NOT somebody I want to party with. I'd pay money to watch Gadd sort his laundry for an hour an a half. Felix, on the other hand, is a gas to party with. I know this firsthand! 
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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2005, 08:45 PM » |
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Yeah, Gadd is pretty soft-spoken and not exactly a dynamic speaker. But how he says something is not nearly as important as what he says. I walked away from his clinic knowing more than I did when I arrived.
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