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« on: July 02, 2002, 05:54 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2002, 10:03 PM » |
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 YAMAHA Erskine Free-Standing Stick Bagwell i did it. ive been talking about getting one of these for a while and finally did it. its hard to shell out $50 for a peice of gear that isnt "fun" and doesnt make noise, but sometimes its worth it. thats the case here (no pun intended ... i swear) last week i had an audition callback. its pretty dynamic music and i had to switch between brushes and sticks and mallets (oh my!) all the time. i had my bag on the floor (cause it wasnt hanging off the floor tom right) so i was reaching down there or pulling em off the bass drum if they werent falling off of thier own accord. i got the call that i got the gig yesterday, and bought the stick bag today. its absolutely vital for the kinda stuff im going to be doing. pros and cons: simply put ... its amazing. stroke of design genius even. roomy, plenty of flat pockets as well as stick pockets. and even some small ones for those drum keys we all loose. its practically bulletproof as well. i am slightly concerned about its structural longevity though. its reliant on cardboard (i assume) and velcro to function to its full capacity. not the materials that launched the space shuttle, but should work for quite some time if you take care of it. my other gripe is a slightly odd one. the stick pockets are sewn to single V edge at the bottom. as opposed to a square or U edge. which would be fine in most cases, even with a good handful of sticks. but i use more than sticks. i use mallets with double ends among other things. and those mallets dont quite stuff all the way down well enough because of this bottom edge. which also means they take up more space. a huge problem? no. not even for me really. but an issue none the less. if youre more of a "bunch of sticks and maybe some rods or brushes" kinda drummer. shouldnt be an issue at all. these pockets are plenty roomy really. to sum up: incredible design. highly usefull. generally well built. but i would like to send the following ideas to yamaha for version 2.0. that wierd drum case plastic for rigidity insted of cardboard. maybe use a tentpole-in-the-pocket system to hold the "table" up instead of velcro. square off the bottoms of the pockets. 8 out of 10
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2002, 03:02 AM » |
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I have TWO of the Erskine Stick Bags. The first one is the earlier model (black/purple/green combo) that Beato made for Yamaha. I really like the first stick bag, but it doesn't have the tray like the second one (see photo below). They also improved the durability of the handle and a few other minor items.  Both versions of Erskine stick bag has one issue that really bothers me ........ the pockets. It's not the pockets themselves, but rather the stitching inside the pockets. If I put a pair of sticks that has really be chewed up along the shoulder (ie. rimshots), the wood splinters get hooked on the lip of the pocket ... and start to mess up the bag. I've got stitching coming out, or portions of the pockets kind of pulling away. I have to fight with the bag to get it to let my sticks go! They get material stuck in the splinters on the stick. So that's a bit frustrating ... but I still love the bag. I think they need to redesign the bag's pockets so that there's no way for anything to hook or snag on the inside of the pockets where you keep your sticks. I had Tuxedo Bags do the same thing; their stick bags that is. I still give the stick bag a BIG "thumbs up"!!!
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2002, 02:52 PM » |
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FINALLY!!!  a place where I can rave to people who will appreciate this piece of gear. I'm sure many of you have seen it. The RockBag Hardware Caddy. It's a hardware bag mounted to a dolly. I know they have made things like this before, but this one was only $95!! I have had it for about a year and it is awesome. I can fit hi-hat stand, 3 boom stands, 2 straight stands, 2 snare stands, tom mount, pedal, 2 mic cases, a stool (minus the seat), and a stick bag. Not to mention the front pocket that holds my cowbell and jam block. This is the best piece of equipment I have bought in years. It fits in the back of my Jeep Cherokee and leaves plenty of room for the drums. It's a bit heavy to get in and out of the car, but once it's on the ground, it rolls like a dream  Saves my back from wear and tear, doesn't require another person or take up too much room, and won't break the bank. THUMBS UP.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2002, 06:17 AM » |
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After almost 3 months of waiting I finally received my  Sonor Giant Steps Twin Effects PedalDon't buy this unless you want your mind blown. For those of you living under a rock the past year this is a pedal which has two beaters...the left activated by the heel and the right by the ball of your footski. It is a single pedal with two beaters and as sonor states not intended to replace the double pedal. It is wild what one can aspire to do with this thing...I can imagine having two or even 4 or them with gajate brackets, triggers, or kicks. Not only is this thing well made (compare it to an axis or dw and this thing is right there if not better- parts are beautifully die cast, painted and machined) the feel out of the box is outstanding. I'm not going to get into it...the beast comes with a video, nice embroidered, padded case and the "docking station" which is really slick (no more chewing up your BD hoop). I got it for 400 beans out the door. I think they retail for over $650. I think it is a very fair value and that is hard for me to say about anything in the music bizz. I think I love it, but it is like doing something incredibly mind expanding for the first time. It is going to be long haul to really get this thing happening but I was doing this flammed 1/8 note triplet osti with my left foot this morning and it was blowing my mind...as soon as I add the rest of the kit...voila! Instant ass kicking solo- just add a Giant Step. You are going to have to get over your preconceived notions of heel down and heel up playing. In other words you are going to have to really get your balance/seat/center of gravity happening...no more resting on your heel or kick drum head boys. One will use muscles in their foot they aren't used to- this thing is not for wimps. It's not as tough if you are familiar with heel/toe technique, but it's not like buying a snare drum and banging out whatever you did before. THIS IS A NEW THING. I've already got sixteenths happening on it and I actually played a jazz samba with that ostinato happening on the left foot! And when I go to bang out a 2/3 clave with just the ball of my foot I don't notice any problems with the other beater wanting to activate- I can leave the main beater in the jam block or let it rebound. Your foot just sorta floats on the thing- I don't know...you just have to get one. The action will blow you away on the heel and the ball portion of the beater...there are over 14 sets of ball bearing/needle bearings in the thing! So don't worry about the pedal performing, it is the smoothest pedal I can remember ever playing! All you need to do is get your foot happening.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2002, 01:09 AM » |
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DW TERRY BOZZIO BEATER SOUND ENHANCERSso i play a lot of percussion, and when im on kit i like to bring some of that sound with me. ive been known to tape mini maracas to sticks or bass beaters, and have been planning on getting a gajate bracket for more options. i saw these dw bass beater accessories a while back and was always intrigued. today i just bought 'em. what they are: shaker - nylon ball, pellet filling jingles - 4 steel tambourine style jingles zils - finger cymbals how they work: the set comes with a little black sleeve that fits over your beater shaft and locks inplace with a drumkey screw. on one end is a threaded hole. each accessory has a short tension rod through it with a lock nut on the end about an 1/8 of an inch down. you simply screw the exposed end of the tension rod on the accessory into the threaded hole on the sleeve. viola. they are extremely light weight. i didnt even really notice any weight difference on my beater. how they sound: remarkable. all of them were plenty loud enough to cut through the kit, but not so loud as to be annoying. the shaker is a simple golf ball looking thing. nice, mellow sound, not to bright, but enough to cut. very sensitive to your pedal movement too. i could pull some hits before they hit the head and got neat 8ths and 16ths with the shaker while playing 1/4's on the bass. the jingles have that tambourine sound. nothing shocking. its not quite as sensitive as the shaker. it would move, but its sound was nominimal with faked beats. the zils intrigued me most. i couldnt visualise how they worked. and i have spent some time on my own trying to devise such a device. so to see the ingenuity in it function, and to see just how simple it is, was about worth the cost alone  one zil is stationary at the lock nut end of the tension rod that goes through them. the other isnt fixed, but can slide easily. there is a light spring between them. it keeps them apart till the momentum of a bass hit, pulls the moving zil forward against the stationary one. TIIIIIIINNNNGGG! as for sensitivity, obviously its the least sensitive of the three. and thats good. its easy to overdo TIIIIIINNNGGG! overview/useability: at 25$ its a cheap way to add some flavor to your kit. obviously not for every song. but if you want to spice up a track its great. i highly recommend them to percussionists with busy feet. the joy of percussion is all the fun little noise makers out there. adding some shaker to your left foot cowbell clave could add a nice unexpected touch ("how many hands does that guy have?" etc  ) i see myself setting up a pedal with nothing on it just for these little gadgets. add some zils to my dumbek solo 
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2002, 01:22 PM » |
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I hate schlepping my cymbal bag through airports, because it weighs a ton, and after 9-11 I get hassled trying to bring it onboard as a carry-on. So I decided to look into a hardshell alternative that I could actually check as baggage. I wanted something durable, easy to carry, and secure from the sticky fingers of baggage handlers. I found this cool-looking case made by Gator at Mars music:  It's got rollerblade-style wheels, and a telescoping handle - very slick. But to open it, all you have to do is unscrew the threaded knob in the center, and I was worried about the handle sliding up when I didn't want it to, possibly getting mangled in the cargo hold of the plane. So I knew I'd need to modify it before I'd feel safe checking it with my suitcase. My solution was to keep the original knob in my stick bag, and use a wrench to put on a locking nut (those metal hex-shaped nuts with a nylon insert that increases friction on the threads), and then another nut on top of that, tightened against the original nut. It would take a thief at least a minute or two to get these off, and they'd need to have a wrench to do so, so I doubt most would take the risk to even try it. I also painted my name on the side of the case. I bought a nylon strap at a luggage store, and looped it around the case, holding the telescoping handle in place, so it won't open unexpectedly. And the strap provides one more layer of interference between thieves and my cymbals. I just did a round trip from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles, and it worked like a charm. For local work, I just use the regular threaded knob that came with the case, but for flying I've now found a system that I feel comfortable with. With Mars going out of business, you may be able to get a good price on one of these cases. I give it two thumbs up! RETRACTION:I'm sorry to say I need to retract that. I've only flown with this case three times, and already it's cracked! I'm very disappointed.
I'd love to get my money back. There's just one problem: I bought it at Mars Music, and they've gone out of business!
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SeƱor A brings up a point that hasn't crossed my mind. The increased airport security since 9/11. Has anyone experienced problems traveling with their kit? I am in the process of building an airline friendly trunk for my complete kit, but in the past have always hand carried my cymbals, snare and kick pedal.
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2002, 02:08 PM » |
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Has anyone experienced problems traveling with their kit? I am in the process of building an airline friendly trunk for my complete kit, but in the past have always hand carried my cymbals, snare and kick pedal.
How many cases does all that fit into? Some airlines I've flown recently only allow ONE carryon , so you'd have a hard time bringing all that on board. That's one of the reasons why I bought a hard case for my cymbals. Check with some of the airlines that you use to see what their latest rules are. They're starting to loosen up a little, although I still get frisked every time I fly, and I have to pack all my tools and hardware-oriented stuff with my checked baggage - they are extremely tough on that stuff at the security checkpoints. PS - they do NOT like metronomes. I guess I can't blame them - a battery operated thingie with flashing lights and a timer? Not something most people want to see on airplanes.  So I always throw that in my checked suitcase!
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2002, 02:15 PM » |
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The trunk would be huge and must be checked. Hopefully I can build one that meets airline sizes but could hold the kit. Before I retired it was not a problem, they would load whatever I could get to the plane but now I travel as a common passenger. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2002, 06:05 PM » |
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I think the whole flying topic is a good one. Let's start another thread on that so we can keep the reviews ... well, about product reviews. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2002, 09:05 AM » |
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REVIEW: Sabian Jojo Mayer Signature Fierce Ride Ever since I heard recordings of Elvin and Tony - particularly Tony's work on Miles Davis' "Four and More" - I've been in love with that DARK ride cymbal sound for jazz playing. Over the years I owned several old Turkish K's that were nice, but never quite what I was seeking. Paiste used to have a ride called (if I remember correctly) a Sound Creation Dark Ride that came close, but you needed a second mortgage to buy the thing. I've made do with a weird 20" pressed-metal cymbal (the sort that comes with a drumkit you'd buy from Sears) that a now-famous bass player sold me - he'd bought it for 20 bucks in a pawn shop, but sold it so he could buy some pot. It had a suitably dark "tang" sound, but lacked the feel and projection of a professional grade cymbal. Well, my search is over. I bought myself a 21" Sabian Fierce Ride sight unseen (since I couldn't find any in local stores), just hoping I'd dig it. It arrived about a week ago, and when I held it on one finger and tapped it with a stick, I was kind of disappointed. The bell seemed choked, and the cymbal seemed too washy. Oh well. But I hadn't actually PLAYED it, so last night I put it up on my jazz kit for the first time, and OH BABY - I'm in love! While it does have a lot of wash, it has a VERY distinct stick sound that I don't think will get lost. And while the bell is not as powerful as that of a rock ride cymbal, it's not choked, and still great for those Elvin latin drum grooves. I'm really digging the cymbal, and am SO glad I took the time to try it out on a kit, instead of just tapping the thing. I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with this - now I just gotta rustle up a jazz gig! To my ears that's the only scenario where it will really fit, although I might try sneaking it into a couple of my tuxedo gigs - the audience will never know, and it will probably sound sweet on the swing numbers. It's also a cool- looking cymbal - all dark and hammered and exotic looking. It's part of Jojo Mayer's Singature series, which also includes crashes, which I'm interested in checking out, too. I gather Jojo uses this ride for high-energy D&B music, but I think it's a great bebop ride! http://www.jojomayer.com/html/signature_gear.html
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2002, 01:15 PM » |
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istanbul sultantechnical info: hand hammered, hand lathed, B20 alloy alright i picked up my first in what will be a small collection of these cymbals. i got an 18" ride that is actually from the pre-split era of istanbul (both agop and mehmet) but since i figure theyre all handmade and prone to slight differances anyway, that it didnt really matter much, same basic people, same materials and methods. that said, this series is essentially the same as the bosphorus ferit series. first obvious bit is the lathe pattern. the sultan series has a completely lathed bottom and the top is mixed. unlathed bell and ~2" stripe around the middle. this is what makes the cymbal stand out from more traditional designs. not just in looks but in sound and functionality. they are also unfinished, it doesnt seem as though they have a protective coating or anything like that. gotta keep 'em clean. the overall character of these cymbals is dark, warm and complex. this one was a touch on the heavy side (for me, its a medium by most makers standards) which combined with the smaller diameter gave it some high end sparkle that a 22" wouldnt have had  but there wasnt so much that it was "bright", just enough to blend in with the darker tones. give the whole thing some added color. the lathed stripe isnt that thick. the lathing on the top was apparently done just a hair past the surface. so it doesnt make a HUGE difference. it simply excentuates the characteristics that are already there. when you play a ride on the edge, you get a more active sound with overtones and edge wobble. you get that with this cymbal because the edge is lathed. when you play a ride in the middle of the bow you get a more controlled & focused sound, less overtones, and less wobble. the unlathed stripe excentuates that. its even more solid & focused ... "pingy" if you will ... on that stripe. same with the bell, the bell of any cymbal is pingier than the edge, the unlathed sultan bell simply excentuates that. that is the sultans strength. by excentuating a couple already evident characteristics without eleminating others, you get a cymbal capable of more color, character, and variety than others. these are "if you could only take one cymbal" cymbals. im getting these cymbals to use with my "pop" band. most of my work with them is ride cymbal driven so i need a variety of ride sounds to keep things fresh. i typically use 3 (crashable to some extent) rides, a crash, and hats. i plan on getting sultans for all of them. this 18" is gorgeous, but a bit on the high end side for a main ride for me. i plan on getting a 22" and 20" as well. between these three i should really have all id ever need. istanbul agop's (which are what the rest of mine will more than likely be) arent that expensive really. a 22" agop sultan can be had brand new for $240 at idaho percussion. average for big 3 prices, low for hand made boutiques.
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Yamaha 6.5x14 Maple Snare DrumI'm fortunate enough to do a lot of fly-in gigs, where I play on rented gear. This affords me the opportunity to play a nice variety of upper-line drums. Last weekend I played at a gorgeous casino called the Mohegan Sun - it's near Hartford, CT. Their house kit was a Yamaha Maple Custom - nice kit! I'm seeing more and more of these being used by production companies and casinos, probably because you can always count on them to sound good. But the standout of the kit was the snare - a Yamaha 6.5x14 Maple drum. This drum KILLED. It had as much crack as most metal drums, with the added warmth and fatness of a wood shell. Yamaha wood shells always seem to have a more "controlled" sound, which I'm not always wild about when it comes to their toms. But for a snare, it's perfect. We were working with the legendary Uptown Horns as our horn section for this gig - these guys have played with everybody - from the Stones to Joe Cocker. They kept commenting on how great the snare sounded, as did our musical director, so I knew it wasn't just me that dug it. I loved playing it, and think it would make a very versatile primary snare drum. I mostly play metal snares, except when I'm in the studio, so this represents a big shift in thinking for me. Also, I usually go with a 5" or a 5.5" depth - this is significantly deeper, but it wasn't too deep-sounding to be a main snare. Appearance-wise, I'm not wild about those little gold-colored lugs, but the drum sounded so good I wouldn't care. I give the drum two thumbs up - check it out!
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22" Istanbul Agop Sultan Jazz Ride ... (mouthful i know)  from thier site: SULTAN SERIES The bottom side is lathed. The top side has lathed and unlathed parts that follow eachother ; beginning with a lathed edge , ending with a unlathed cup. this is part 1 - the excited because i just got it today initial reaction part. ill add part 2 (to this same post) later this weekend since i plan on using it on a gig tomorrow. (note, i was using a guitar center 7A. a .540 diameter stick with a ball tip. these are my controls. they can have a brighter sound than i often like, so if i dig it with the ball, ill love it with the teardrop) my first reactions were to the physical nature of this cymbal and how handmade it really is. its got some rough spots in the lathing, the signature is smudged, and its absolutely gorgeous. to the cymbalholic, good hand hammering is like the facets on a diamond, in the right light it becomes a whole new cymbal, with light reflecting off every dent. beautiful  the unlathed bits are accordingly multicolored, showing the wierdness that heat adds to metal. varying shades of reds and violets. the bell on this thing is pretty wide at 5 1/2 inches, but relatively flat. now to the sound. i got a "jazz" model. which is thinner than thier standards. according to idaho percussion a normal 20" averages around 6lbs, a jazz around 5. i wanted a thin 22 because i wanted dark, and washy ... i love sustain in a cymbal. this delievers in spades. when riding the unlathed edge it gets going and just rolls there ... for days ... each stroke after the first looses its attack a bit, so your strokes arent so much well defined "pings" but more a simple peak in the wash. like a whitecap on windy water. that alone could turn off a lot of folks. but to me? YUMMY. and this is where the true strength of the sultan line lies. if you want more ping on top of that underlying roar, you just move your stroke up a couple inches to the unlathed stripe. viola. your attack is sharper, but you retain that warm fuzzy wash. and thats the reason that stripe is there  ingenious design. when crashing the edge it opens right up and that sustain is right there after it. more than most rides because of its thinness, but less than a normal crash obviously, its a 22 after all. what i do a lot instead of using crash cymbals for accents is to crash my rides. not with a swing persay, but while riding just bear down on the edge a bit more, so you get a big soft roar in the midst of your riding. again, this cymbal nailed that. the bell is an odd duck. im not much for bell sounds so im not too particular, but i checked it out because i know a lot of folks are. being as wide as it is, makes it an easy target and combined with its unlathed-ness gives it a solid "tang" when hit with a shoulder. its a fair bit weaker when played with the tip of the stick, but a nice audible ping that doesnt really activate the sustain. to sum up, big, fat, dark, warm, with complex overtones and tremendous depth and wash. controllable with a lighter touch, roaring with a heavier one. and oh so purty 
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2003, 03:17 PM » |
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22" Istanbul Agop Sultan Jazz Ridepart 2 - on the road so i had a gig with this ride last night. the sound onstage was utter $hite, but i figure thats a norm anyway right  (my kick drum was the angry voice of god though, that was nice  ) i had no cymbal or overhead micing so it was me against the world. mixed in that sort of environment, the lowend of this cymbal wasnt nearly as prominent, that includes that huge sustain. to my ears it had a lot more attack and ping than it did at rehersal. the sustain blended with the the guitar in a lot of respects, adding to the overall underlying drone of our band (a good thing) but its sticking managed to have more definition than i had heard before, which aided in keeping time, another good thing, since the whole mix was pretty mucky. the only time the sustain really showed itself well was when it was left alone as the band dropped in dynamic. which is exactly what i wanted, since thats where i need it the most. so, part 2 summary ... more solid sounding than originally thought. still plenty dark and wet, but can stand on its own in the right setting. maybe a heavier stick like a 5 (instead of my 7's) would add to that. i still wouldnt think of it as a live "rock" cymbal. it wouldnt cut through a mix enough for most rock music. maybe good as an option for those kinda players though. to add some depth to your ride options. otherwise id leave it for the jazz, and mellower pop folks. if the tonality and character intrigues a rock player maybe try the regular or heavy instead of the jazz.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2003, 07:48 PM » |
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Bosphorus Jeff Hamilton "Hammer" 14" Hi-Hatsas i was looking for some cool hihats, i stumbled upon these at Drummer's World. became a big fan after getting my Diana Krall Live in Paris DVD, so i thought, "what the hey?" Looking at 'em, they were done nicely in a brillant finish with the dark navy logo set starkly against it. all along the surface are those tried and true hand hammered marks that looked like rippling golden waves. had a very little bell, and both hats were rather shallow looking. picking up the top, you cant but notice its suuuuuper thin and light. even has a freaky wobble when you crash the hats. while, the bottom hat had a more pocked and dirty, unlathed look and also felt medium weight/thin. playing 'em yielded a Harry Caray approved, "Holy Cow!"  closed hat chicks had a very sweet chirpy tone that oozy sizzly overtones. foot chicks were mellow, yet sizzly as well. the lighter than average top really made the foot work very responsive. and, the open hat crash tones were actually good enough to use as crash tones! nothing too trashy, dissonant or offensive about 'em. very harmonious. the bell also yielded some sweet pings that sounded like mini dinner bells. downsides? a bit too sloshy and soggy. tho the top's light, the overall feel isnt as articulate and pinpoint as my Paistes. still, with tone this good, who cares?  also, the top hat seems sooo thin, it almost feels fragile. kinda makes me wince if i hit the hats too hard.  compared to the pricier Zildjian KCon 14" hats, the KCon's had waay more trashier accents, especially in the open hat sounds. stick sound was similar, but a little tighter and articulate, and not as sloshy. compared to my Paiste Trad's, lets just say, i think they're quaking in the cymbal bag! the Hammers made them seem almost bland. not as sweet a chick, brighter & more inyourface open hat sound, while not nearly as vibey. funny, but i also tried a wafer thin, Hammer 20" Crash/Ride, and didnt dig it as much. tho, it had a sweetly bright, controlled, yet somewhat dry stick tone, hitting it harder gave some after/overtones that were just too trashie for me. like beating on a finely tuned trash can lid from outside. still, would give any vintage buff sweaty palms. i havent played all that many vintage hats, save for what Mark at the shop had, but overall, if you're looking for a sweet vintage vibe in your hihats, your search ends here.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2003, 11:08 AM » |
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 I finally added this to my kit. This is the Sonor Giant Step Middle Pedal. I took some rearranging of my kit to get this contraption to hook up and quite frankly, I had my doubts. My kit is much more centralized now, which is kinda bizarre because my body feels more balanced than before. My rack toms and kick are directly in front of me and the snare hats and floor are almost in line behind them. So I have been playing this way now for a couple of weeks. This is the fastest pedal I've played currently. I have not tried the dw titanium or axis longboards, but for my ability, it goes as fast as I can. The big difference I noticed is that it was faster than my dw (5000 accelerator model) double pedal but the beaters did not have the velocity/ impact power. I have had to adjust my technique (play harder). I expected this with a new pedal. It's a very quiet pedal, comes with nylon or chain drive. I put the chains on when I got it FYI. It's plenty quiet with the chains but silent with the nylon strap. I never realized how an adjustable toe stop/footboard help my playing...yes you can adjust spring tension and all that, but the giant step pedal has an adjustable "target" (you can see the red dot on the footboard in the pic) and this little movable toe stop. Pretty cool, you can get your feet flying and spend less energy keeping your feet where they need to be and focus more on what you are playing. My feet are looking and sounding good IMHO. It comes with two carrying cases and of course the "docking" station which is very nice. Nothing is perfect. It is expensive, no doubt about that. They retail for almost $1200 so you have to really want one of these things until some other company starts ripping them off and the price comes down. The drum key it comes with is generic. Which I think is BS. The beaters could be a little heavier, but I think I'm just getting used to the new pedal and this could be a subjective opinion. All in all, it's a bizarre piece. I like it, especially combined with my twin effects pedal, two gajate brakets and hopefully two remotes in the not to distant future. Just when you think you know how to play a little drums.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2003, 10:47 PM » |
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 Sabian B8 PRO Cymbal Performance PackThe pack came with 14 med high hats, 16 and 18 med crash and a 20 med ride. These cymbals are not bad at all for the money. I went in with about $500 to spend on cymbals tested some Zildjian Avedis and K's some Sabain B8 and B8 Pro, HH and AA... After about an hour of testing and some dirty looks from the sales people I came to the conclusion that Sabain has great High hats. Every pair I tried was great! The B8 pro's sounded just as good as the AA's. The B8 pro's have good sound on the crash's I did like the AA's abit better the meduim thins were amazing, but for $215 couldn't pass up the deal. The avedis line makes good rides for my taste but still the B8 Pro was not that far off. I know these are looked at as cheap in most peoples eyes, but I think they are worth the money! Charlie
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2003, 05:41 PM » |
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Vic Firth American Jazz 5 (AJ5)Firths AJ pagemost of the american jazz series are relatively normal, with the differance being in the longer taper. the AJ5 takes that a step further. as far as i know the AJ5 the thinnest non-timbale stick on the market. .490 diameter. your average 7A is .540 ... so, super skinny, acorn tip, 16" length, hickory construction. this thing is great if youre a fan of skinnier sticks. anyone used to anything over a 5A will probably loose thier grip and chuck 'em at thier guitarist ... but 7A users will probably love 'em. the acorn tip brings out some of the depth that a lighter wieght stick can loose and the long taper feels great (the AJ6 has a super thin taper if you want 'em bouncier). not a lot to say ... its a stick and its skinny. just wanted to vouch for the excellent feel of such a small stick. great for lighter combo gigs or generally more touch sensitive playing. one comment for firth though ... they could make these in maple and call 'em &quo | | |