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« on: August 17, 2005, 05:11 PM » |
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Help me be a good dad.
A young drummer in the house is about to have a birthday and I obtained a 67 Acrolite snare (I hope this is spelled right). What heads and snare wires should I obtain to complete the set-up?
Snare wires probably are not the right term - but, hey, I am a 52 year old guitar player and I am doing the best I can here. You get the picture.
Thanks for the help!
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2005, 05:30 PM » |
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67 Acrolites came with Ludwig Weather Master Mylar heads sprayed with Ludwig's Ruff-Kote. The snares were probably 20-strand.
Decent replacements would be a Remo 14" coated Ambassador batter head (the top head), and a Remo clear snare-side head. 20-strand replacement wires are readily available.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2005, 05:33 PM » |
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You'll be glad to hear that you got the terminology right. I, anyway, would just get a set of 20-strand "snappy snares", to begin with. There's a quite a following with 42-strand snares, but, while many appreciate their fat sound, they may not be for everybody. Is he or she fond of a fat snare sound? If so, maybe you might try those. In any other case, just get the 20-strand wires; I feel that they are most versatile. You can change them later on if needed, anyway, for relatively cheap. For heads, again, I would just go basic as far as setting this drum up; namely, a medium-weight batter head (like the Remo Ambassador, Aquarian Texture Coated, Evans G1) and a medium-weight snare side head. Of course, if your young drummer is a hard hitter, you might even try a head with a dot in the center. In any case, the Ludwig Acrolite is a fine instrument, no matter what sort of drummer will be using it—is he or she a beginner, by the way?
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2005, 05:35 PM » |
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Here are some great heads including a free tuning video! Here are some great snare wires. Tune the drum up properly (Get a pro to hep if possible) and it will be the envy of a good majority of us here at DC.  HTH Jim
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2005, 06:13 PM » |
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As to Ludwig heads—IIRC, the "Medium" weights are actually 7.5 mils as opposed to the usual "medium" weight of 10 mils, whereas the "heavy" are 10 mils.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2005, 06:34 PM » |
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Even better. With those heads it'll be just like new!
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2005, 08:24 PM » |
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Thanks for all the help, you guys are great!
I apologize on behalf of every guitar player who was nasty to his drummer - except for my rudeness to the second drummer in our band who insisted that his girlfriend would make a great sound person.
She proceeded to create discord and havoc by sleeping alterately with the bass player and then his wife - turning them both into useless alcoholics. The bass player wasn't that good, but he had a working van which the wife got in the divorce. She couldn't drive, but that's a story we shouldn't talk about now.
Again, thanks!
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2005, 09:18 PM » |
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Wow! We have all kinds of celebrities here at the D.C. ..... Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Tom Waits!  ..... who insisted that his girlfriend would make a great sound person.
She proceeded to create discord and havoc by sleeping alterately with the bass player and then his wife - turning them both into useless alcoholics. The bass player wasn't that good, but he had a working van which the wife got in the divorce. She couldn't drive, but that's a story we shouldn't talk about now.....
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2005, 05:46 AM » |
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2005, 09:20 AM » |
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So if I wanted to put my '68 Acro back to original (as possible) heads, the WeatherMaster medium batter and med snare side heads would do it? I'm not a particularly heavy hitter, so I'm not worried about denting them--I still have my G2 batter and Hazy 300 snare which have been on my snare for over two years (and still going strong). What about the Aquarian modern vintage heads-has anyone tried these on your snare?
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2005, 09:34 AM » |
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I'm not a particularly heavy hitter, so I'm not worried about denting them--I still have my G2 batter and Hazy 300 snare which have been on my snare for over two years (and still going strong).
Well, as long as you know that the G2 is a two ply head (I think 14 mils—two 7 mil plies), whereas the Ludwig Medium, as mentioned, is 7.5 mils.  It's comparable to the Remo Diplomat as far as thickness.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2005, 03:05 PM » |
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Well, as long as you know that the G2 is a two ply head (I think 14 mils—two 7 mil plies), whereas the Ludwig Medium, as mentioned, is 7.5 mils.  It's comparable to the Remo Diplomat as far as thickness. Yeah, I know they're 2 ply-I just didn't know ply thickness. I have G1's on my toms, which have been on for over a year and the only dent on my tom-tom is from when the nylon tip fell off my drumstick and I didn't notice until I already hit the tom a couple times. I'm just trying to get as vintage a sound out my snare (and eventually whole kit, although they're Pearl Exports-they're close with G1 coated tops and bottoms) 
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2005, 04:51 PM » |
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A coated single ply head is the vintage sound for the '60s and '70s. All the "vintage" type heads are trying to sound like the natural heads everyone had to put up with prior to mylar, which is cool if that is the sound you want. But by the mid '60s mylar heads were standard.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2005, 05:50 PM » |
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...the things my dad does while i'm at camp lol. Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll go with a coated and clear ambassador for a more versatile sound. I might try the snappy snare 20 strand also.
Thanks again
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