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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2002, 07:57 AM » |
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What other materials does Fibes use besides wood? I see fiberglass mentioned on their site, and then something else, with crystal in the word name. Since they're in TX, makes we wonder if it's a sort of melamine,,like TexasWare was made of. I liked TexasWare, for bowls. Too bad you can't seem to find it anymore, like it's no longer made.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2002, 08:17 AM » |
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I went to a local drum shop and a customer had his 6 pc Sonor Designer Kit with an African Bubinga outer ply set up on the floor. First it was the most beautiful kit I've ever seen. Second it was the biggest sounding set of drums I've ever heard. Third, I was extremely impressed with the hardware, especially the threading of all the wing nuts and screws - ultra precise and tight. Sonor must do its own machining.
However, I still like the Tama leverglide HH and DW BD pedal better that the Sonor. Put it all together with some Custom K's and that's my dream kit.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2002, 08:58 AM » |
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FIBES uses the same shells as GRETSCH; Jasper shells. It' the whole Maple/Gum/Maple thing.
Welp I reckon that sounds just like my cousin Jasper. He'd be smackin' away on some Juicy Fruit while he's workin' the yearly maple sugarin'....he were'nt too careful from what dropped out a' his jaws..... I reckon he liked to think that he's givin' folks a little surprise with their pancakes. Sort of a maple syrup/Juicy Fruit/ Tootsie Pop. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2002, 02:15 PM » |
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I am a Tama man,,,, but I would pove to play a set of DW's. I went to a drum clinic a week or two ago and he had a custom sonor kit that was super nice. If it sounds good then it is all good! the most important part of the Kit to me is the hardware.. I need something that stands the test of time. I've had ludwig and Rogers and they just didn't have the heavy hardware package I need. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2002, 05:46 AM » |
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Funny cavanman.
Yeah, would have loved to have played that designer kit.
Sonors cymbal stands and hh stands are a little behind though.
I want a designer birch in scandy birch veneers.
Ok, time to get back to werk so I can afford one someday.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2002, 05:05 PM » |
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Orange County Drums are the best drums i've ever played DW has nice hardware but i think their drums are @$%#.
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2002, 09:59 AM » |
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Bart,
I was intrigued by your comment about Gretch and Fibes. There's a 4pc fusion Fibes Kit at a local drum shop that hasn't sold in about a year. The asking price is $1,500. I don't know what if any HW is included. But, it sound great, big, booming. And it's a little kit 10 and 14 inch toms and 16 inch BD. I'm thinking of buying it. I've had the same standard 5 pc Yamaha mohogany kit for 25 years and I'm tired of it - too loud and uncotrolable. Plus, I'm disabled and I am simply unable to lug it around for the few gigs I do - if there isn't a house drum I can't make the gig. That little Fibes kit is sweet and I might be able to bring it with me. That kind of endorsement from a drummer of your stature is very compelling.
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2002, 12:31 PM » |
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im not of barts stature by any means (well, im 6ft tall, but i was talking musician-wise) but theres a fibes at one of my local shops thats just gorgeous. its got earthtone heads on it (which help  ) but still a @$%# fine kit. also a friend has a set which also just kills me. fibes does make fine gear.
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2002, 01:25 PM » |
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Mark,
I didn't even mention the looks of this kit. Natural Maple. It looks like it has some kind of little stain on it because it's a little darker than bare maple. Bottom line, it's beautiful. And it's set up with a Constantinople cymbal set. Man-o-man.
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2002, 03:30 PM » |
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actually when i said gorgeous, i meant sounding ... it was a hideous yellow stain  ok for tony williams maybe but yellow aint for me.
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2002, 05:11 PM » |
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16" kick? No wonder it hasn't sold in a year.
Oh the day I can't lug at least a 20".... Hopefully they will have a party for me, anyways-
I thought you were going to get a sonor kit?
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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2002, 08:03 AM » |
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Felix,
Sonor would be my first choice, but, at those prices . . . This kit is going for about 1/3 of a Sonor Designer kit. BTW, I meant that the BD is 16/18. Anyway, I'm still weighing my options.
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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2002, 04:19 PM » |
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Well the fibes is what? 1500? Ok I have the sonor designer price catalog right in front of me:
Here: I'm going to order you a birch kit? Or do u want maple? The birch shells are actually thinner than the maples, that's what I'm going for anyways, at same price.
Lets start with your snare. 5 x 14 retails at $1020 your 8x12 tom retails at $820 and your 14 x 14 floor aint cheap at $1290 then that sweet 14 x 18" kick only $2080
so let's do the math = $5210 beans for your 4pc
You should be able to get 43% maybe more so that gives you a grand total of 2969 + around 250 for a tom/cymbal stand you will need..ok so that's 3219 before tax. So you will have around 160 in tax That is 3379.95...
Ok you put down 1500 that you would have to cough up for the fibes to lock in your drumset at sonor to make.
Here's the best part or the worst depending on how you look at it- You won't have your new kit for at least four and I have heard waits as long as 8 months to come up with the remaining $1879.95.
BUT those long lugs over that Bubinga or the Kahaya Pyramide (African Mahogany strain)- for me it's a no brainer.
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2002, 04:46 AM » |
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1. Premier 2. Premier 3. Premier 4. Premier 5. Fibes
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2002, 07:18 AM » |
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I had a premier snare for awhile...not very long though.  That's what I'm talkin' about.
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2002, 07:49 AM » |
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I think short lugs look better on the Designer series. No offense 
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2002, 08:46 AM » |
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That's what I'm talkin' about.
OK. where is the stinkin cowbell? It should be against the law to display a kit with an important part missing.
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2002, 09:34 AM » |
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No offense taken...long lugs to me are more elegant...short lugs show more shell and are in "style" right now. If I'm paying all that money, I want the biggest lugs darnit!
well back to scraping paint off the garage floor...coke break over
It should be against the law to even have a cowbell on a designer kit!
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2002, 10:42 AM » |
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It should be against the law to even have a cowbell on a designer kit!
Howya gonna do the "Milk Cow Blues"? You must have a cowbell, designer kit or Sunlites....Its all the same..... 
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2002, 01:31 PM » |
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Yamaha for me. I think they make the best mounting system, they're innovative with different wood types, makes great hardware, are priced right (at least here in Europe) and the quality is top notch. I play a Maple Custom Absolute right now, my 2nd Yamaha kit, so open and beautiful drums. Too bad most of the drummers (I know of) think of them as jazz drums only, because that is not the case. Yes, most of their endorsers are jazz musicians, but that does not mean that they won't work great too in a rock/metal enviroment. And believe me, they do...
2nd on my list would be Tama. 3rd probably Sonor.
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