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« on: September 18, 2005, 05:26 AM »

So we had a potential singer sit in yesterday.  Not sing, just listen at practice.  We are gonna try out the vocals next week.

Now here is the problem: we have no leader.  As this band gets bigger, I can see things getting out of hand with regard to goofing off and such.  It was a bit of a problem yesterday.

I'm usually the one that turns into the disciplinarian, "one more run through and then you may go to the bar"

So I'm thinking it may be time to define our roles in the band.  
Which brings me to my quandry:

How do you go about selecting a leader for a band?
Who is your band leader and why?
Does every band have a 'leader'?

This is a first band for all of us and none of us has any musical experience either.  The potential singer has participated in a choir before, that's the extent of our musical resume.    Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 08:36 AM »

We do have a band leader of sorts but he wasnt designated to be so. I think things just naturally gravitated to where it should be?. Its our keyboard player who is just a natural leader. Hes very structured in his dealings with rehearsals, booking jobs, etc. We all have a voice in the direction of the band and are all pretty professional in our attitudes (usually) but the natural leaders just sort of evolve with things.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2005, 11:59 AM »

I always thought it was Mona, but then again Angela seemed likely, too.

Oh, you mean in the band?  Roll Eyes

We just kind of break up certain tasks.  Our singer usually gets the gigs: he's great at networking, plus he owns a restauraunt, so he talks to a lot of people. Our lead guitarist is sort of the taskmaster during practice, to get us perfect. I do the technical stuff, like the recordings, web stuff, etc; and the bass player kind of just goes with it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2005, 05:13 AM »

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So we had a potential singer sit in yesterday.  Not sing, just listen at practice.  

What purpose did that serve?  Just wondering?

Also, your "leader" will be hashed out as you play more.  The leader may be different in different bands.  Maybe it's the guy that does all the bookings.  Maybe it's the guy with all the gear.  Maybe it' ste guy that molds the musical direction of the band.  Etc.,........
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2005, 06:13 AM »

What purpose did that serve?  Just wondering?

It was to get a feel of the band.  We really don't do any covers and I don't know any of the lyrics.  I had supplied a low quality audio tape about 3 days before, but nothing that I would expect someone to be able to jump in off.  We are not pros & have crap for recording equipment - literally a 5 & 10 (five and dime) tape deck.  Besides, potential singer is a friend of ours anyway.  So it was cool to play with an 'audience'.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2005, 08:12 AM »

My bass player is the leader, no question about it.  He schedules the rehearsals, he runs the rehearsals, he picks the music, he writes all the horn charts, he writes all the vocal harmonies, he programs all the keyboard parts, and just about everything else.

It works pretty well in a large band (11 people) like ours.  A true democracy would never work.   Too many cooks spoil the broth.  It also helps that, along with being a smoking bass player, he plays the trumpet, piano, and sings in the Houston Grand Opera.  That means he has experience playing in the rhythm section, vocals, and horn section so he's very well rounded.

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2005, 09:59 AM »

i guess it depends what being the leader means. i always thought of our guitarist as the leader b/c he wrote all the music. but he didn't perceive it that way.

i consider whoever's coming up with the music [and setting the musical direction] to be the leader. someone who's booking gigs [ie, me] isn't a leader, but the main contact.

i guess it depends how people want to be lead or followed. but i think responsbilities should offset one another. so if one person is mainly writing, other people can get involved with particulars like booking gigs and rehearsals.

it's helpful if the leader is someone who has a fair amount of experience and is respected by the bulk of other players.

controlling the goof-off stuff shouldn't be the leader's responsibilty, though. every one should be able to control themselves, or why bother?
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2005, 02:39 PM »

controlling the goof-off stuff shouldn't be the leader's responsibilty, though. every one should be able to control themselves, or why bother?

I heard that.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 01:01 PM »

A true democracy would never work.  

Even the truest democracy must have a leader when the chips are down!
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2005, 10:06 PM »

I'm in 3 bands and they are all quite different.

In the pipeband, we have the ONE guy whose word rules.  Then we have section leaders for both competition units, of which I'm one.  

At church we have a worship leader who runs the show.

Two of the guys in my church band also have a cover band for fun.  The bass player (who the band is named after) is the overall leader and direction setter (he's a natural born leader), but at rehearsal, the guitarist tends to run things.  He has a lot of band experience and is quite good at leading a band.  Another person toured professionally for awhile and she helps with a lot with perfecting the sound, particularly vocals.  We all tend to listen to those three when they speak up.  The rest of us (particularly myself and the main drummer - I'm just a back-up - just go with the flow.)

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2005, 04:19 AM »

True democracy works with my band.   Maybe its because there are only 3 of us, but it works.  No leaders.   We all opt for initiative in our respective strengths, but nothing gets done without group concensus.   Just the way I like it.  
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2005, 09:46 AM »

I always thought it was Mona, but then again Angela seemed likely, too.

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2005, 05:43 AM »

There are 5 of us.  I do the PR and run the rehearsals.  Another guy does all the booking, and is kind of the front man (he does most of the chatting on stage).  He also is kind of the goto guy from an over all band direction.  I know that's kind of vague.  One of the guitar players is the musical director on stage.  Songs that have long vamps, and need to be conducted in some fashion are driven by him.

So, the leader of the band is situational.
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