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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2006, 03:03 AM » |
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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2006, 07:13 AM » |
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Right now I am playing 7 toms and the First Call song works great. We had practice yesterday and Digitally Recorded it and the First Call tuning with the Aquarian Performer ll's Drum head Recorded great and the Fiberskyn 3 really suprised me. The Drum solo that I put in the middle of Heartbreaker may sound good enough to display on the web site I am putting together. The toms sounded so musical I played a different song on them. Sounded like real notes instead of just a bunch of thumping.
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« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2006, 09:42 AM » |
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Right now I am playing 7 toms and the First Call song works great. We had practice yesterday and Digitally Recorded it and the First Call tuning with the Aquarian Performer ll's Drum head Recorded great and the Fiberskyn 3 really suprised me. The Drum solo that I put in the middle of Heartbreaker may sound good enough to display on the web site I am putting together. The toms sounded so musical I played a different song on them. Sounded like real notes instead of just a bunch of thumping.
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« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2006, 07:08 PM » |
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I have a link on this web site that will take you to a free web site that I started to put together. If you click on the block that say's add photo
It will show a picture of a two class reunion that we played. I am standing up behind my set singing Boogie Momma. It is also in the middle of Heartbreaker. Heartbreaker into Black Dog into Whole Latta Love into a drum solo into Boogie Moma and back into Heartbreaker.
The free web site wouldn't do everything I wanted so I have an IT guy designing a real good one. When I get the solo sent to me in an E-mail from my bass player tonight I will get a better Idea of what it sounds like. When my IT friend is done I will stick the new link on here.
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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2006, 01:14 AM » |
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Just so no one is put off from going down the 'first call' route, I've used it succesfully on many recordings.
I respectfully defer to your experience.  I tried weaseling that paragraph, but it seems to overwhelmingly poo-poo that method nonetheless. I'm "going on fumes" as it were, anyway. I don't think I've played a tom (that was my own) in about two years. I'd have to loosen up and rig my extra snare drums if I was asked to play all of a sudden, or something...in which case, I'd probably go for two harmonics from my snare drum. |
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2006, 12:47 PM » |
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FWIW, in case anyone is keeping score...I did some experimenting with this idea today, and the initial results didn't really impress me. I think I got better results simply getting each tom to sound its best on its own, versus the results I got trying to coordinate (match) pitches between the reso and batter heads of adjacent toms.
I'm still intrigued by the idea, however, so I may do some more experimenting as time allows.
I tried that method when first tunning my new drum set and didn't liked the results. The higher tom was way higher than I liked, so I went back to the whatever sounds good method - which resulted to be a major triad. I like to have my snare drum and floor tom as close to an 8 th as possible (some times 7 th). The bass drum is another story. I think it should be felt, not heard; so the lower, the better. |
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« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2006, 07:53 PM » |
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I agree with your taste for the bass drum. Needs to be felt and heard though I like good tone out of it. Our ears can't hear the Hertz
you are talking about feeling. So you really need a mix of both! This
is why an 18 in. Sub Woofer doesn't really sound as good as a 15 in Woofer. The 18in. doesn't even respond good. The 15in. gives you frequencies that you can hear and also the ones you can't hear but you can feel. Same applies with a bass drum!
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« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2006, 04:08 PM » |
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I just did everything this site said to do for tuning my snare and it totally screwed it up. |
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"When I first started playing, I was interested in music and I was able to read it. But when I moved into playing with groups, I did a silly thing and dropped it. I do think it's great to be able to write down ideas in music form. But I also think that feeling is a lot more important in drumming than mere technique." John (Bonzo)
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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2006, 04:11 PM » |
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I just did everything this site said to do for tuning my snare and it totally screwed it up.
How so? Can you be more specific? |
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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2006, 04:18 PM » |
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What happened? And what is it doing? What is it that you don't like? There are solutions to all problems unless something Broke like the shell.
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« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2006, 05:28 PM » |
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How so? Can you be more specific?
Well it was sounding all right before but it had a very, ringy, hollow sound to it. so I did what it said. I took of the head, put it back on, tightened it by hand and then with a key, tightened the snares and loosened the snare head so it wasn't the same as the top,and now it sounds even more ringy. When I hit it the sound stays for about 6 seconds. |
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"When I first started playing, I was interested in music and I was able to read it. But when I moved into playing with groups, I did a silly thing and dropped it. I do think it's great to be able to write down ideas in music form. But I also think that feeling is a lot more important in drumming than mere technique." John (Bonzo)
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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2006, 05:30 PM » |
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There are solutions to all problems unless something Broke like the shell.
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I know but I don't no what is exactly wrong with the actual snare. I only know it is very high piched and ringy, I dont think that its the top I think its something witht he snare head.nothing is broken I checked. |
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"When I first started playing, I was interested in music and I was able to read it. But when I moved into playing with groups, I did a silly thing and dropped it. I do think it's great to be able to write down ideas in music form. But I also think that feeling is a lot more important in drumming than mere technique." John (Bonzo)
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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2006, 07:56 PM » |
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What kind of top Head do you have on your Snare?
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« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2006, 08:09 PM » |
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Remo Emperor X and I fixed it, I just needed to adjust the snare head, tighten the top and losen the snare wires a little.
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« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2006, 08:57 PM » |
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Sounds like you got it. Just took a little more time than you thought. I have done many things to get rid of that ring and or quieten a snare a bit because most snares are the loudest thing on the stage and it is what causes you to go def after a while. Even to the extent of puttting a thin piece of cloth under the top head about 3 in. wide right down the middle. Or taking a Zero O-Ring and 4 small pieces of duct tape about a half in. wide by 1 in. to hold the O-ring down. There are all kinds of things that people have probably done but the head can make a difference to. Evans makes an St Dry head that I played for about 8 or 9 years that is real dead. I have gone to a Remo Fiberskyn 3 and last night I got some real good feed back about
the sound of my snare at the bar I played at. Many drummers in the room. Hope some of this helps. Sometimes we get frustrated. I know that everyone on this web site has had different sound or tuning problems to over come and it really isn't always science. Sometimes you have to work it out and get the sound that YOU are looking for. Everyones ears are just a little different. Good Luck!!!
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2006, 05:03 AM » |
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threads like these make me happy that I only have two toms. |
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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2006, 04:56 PM » |
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most snares are the loudest thing on the stage and it is what causes you to go def after a while. Good Luck!!!
Snares will cut through anything. and thanks. |
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