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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2002, 01:05 PM »

Chris, you couldn't have put it into any simpler terms.  You speak the truth bro.   Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2002, 01:13 PM »

FWIW...I heard Alex is just playing doubles with two kick drums that also trigger two more kick drums so that you get ghost notes...4 hits for every two...the first two being his actual attack the second two delayed.

Does that make sense?

When my brother plays this beat he just does doubles with the bass drums and fills in the rest with his toms...sounds just as cool.

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Alex is a great drummer...I especially dig his ride work.

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2002, 01:27 PM »

FWIW...I heard Alex is just playing doubles with two kick drums that also trigger two more kick drums so that you get ghost notes...4 hits for every two...the first two being his actual attack the second two delayed.

Nope. Although there is now a pedal on the market that does something like that, playing notes on the upbeats when you lift your feet, there was nothing like that available in the early 80's.

Hot For Teacher is not impossible. I can't remember the exact tempo, but it's not inhuman by any stretch - I think it was somewhere in the 120's or low 130's, which is not that fast.  It just sounds COOL, and Alex played the hell out of it.

He did use a second pair of bass drums, with the two on the outside connected to the main ones with something that looked suspiciously like the kind of duct you vent your dryer with in the laundry room. The outer bass drums were supposedly to produce extra resonance in sympathy with the primary bass drums, but I think it was basically done because it looked cool.

Alex rocks. He was playing 20" crashes with marching sticks, and still capable of the kind of intricacy found in this song. Now that's a manly man.

(He also played a Ludwig snare drum, but it was NOT an Acrolite. Pity.)
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2002, 01:31 PM »

All Hot for Teacher is is a pattern of shuffle style eighth notes and triplets in 4/4 time.  If you listen carefully enough, you can hear it.
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2002, 01:51 PM »

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Although there is now a pedal on the market that does something like that, playing notes on the upbeats when you lift your feet, there was nothing like that available in the early 80's.

I'm not so sure...you want to back that up? Maybe Alex didn't have anything like that but I'm pretty sure I saw a clinic by someone who did in the early 80s.

Doesn't matter...I'm just telling you what it sounds like to me...I hear doubles.

I'll tell you what though...I know someone who would know absolutely for sure what Alex did in the studio...I'll ask him.

As far as I'm concerned, Alex is not playing 8th note triplets with his feet...I can play it that way but it doesn't sound like Hot for Teacher and I don't think Alex is that kind of double kick player.

I'm kinda curious now so I'll ask around and find out what he actually did.
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2002, 02:01 PM »

All you have to do is listen carefully to it, and you can tell that's what he's doing.
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2002, 02:15 PM »

Yeah...maybe you're right but I just listened to it (thanks to Kazaa Smiley ) and it still doesn't sound, or feel like he's doing triplets on the Kicks. Whatever.
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2002, 02:19 PM »

Yeah...maybe you're right but I just listened to it (thanks to Kazaa Smiley ) and it still doesn't sound, or feel like he's doing triplets on the Kicks. Whatever.

He's not playing triplets; he's playing a triplet-based rhythm most people call a shuffle, which consists of the 1st and 3rd notes of the triplet.

On the intro he fills in some notes on his floor tom(s) while maintaining the shuffle.
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2002, 08:07 PM »

Slightly off-topic-  but I've always wondered why Alex in more recent years wore the neckbrace on stage.    Any takers??

He is awesome...I've been into them since VH2...but tonite it's 'Girl Gone Bad' spinning thru my head and up for a well overdue sonic blast thru the ol' phones.    
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2002, 07:44 AM »

Too much headbanging for too many years.  Plain and simple.  I'm probably headed down the same road.   Cry  
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2002, 12:04 PM »

Bart, thanks for the explanation.  I knew who it was about, I just didn't know who done it.

Acrolite, please tell me how you get those pictures up next to your posts.  I'm tired of being a computer dunce.

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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2002, 06:16 AM »

Acrolite, please tell me how you get those pictures up next to your posts.  I'm tired of being a computer dunce.

I have the picture stored on my web site, and I link to it. That's the only way I know, other than choosing from the selection offered by this forum. Ask Bart if there's an easier way.
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