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« on: October 10, 2002, 01:55 AM » |
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Has anyone ever attempted to play this song just on the trap kit without any percussion accompaniment? I need some ideas or suggestions how to play this song decently with just the trap kit and a cowbell. Thanks guys.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2002, 09:07 AM » |
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yeah I have, you can try playing some of the percussion parts on the toms, I never play it the same way twice, it depends on my mood. There's a book about playing percussion stuff on trap but the name escapes me right now, If I remember it I'll post it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2002, 09:21 AM » |
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I would play the osti bass line on the kick in the fast part and then add "pig latin" diddle inversions over the top...havn't played that one in awhile...it's a blast.
Hey any of you guys in the forgotten foot book get to the "hands" part yet? Cool stuff- bell hands, mozambique hands, cascara hands, then doug adds the feet. Awesome stuff.
We used to have a samba jam in a band I was in and the guitar would play that signature melody "dah dah de-dah...dah dah de-dah"...you know LOL.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2002, 09:24 AM » |
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Hey Felix, I've been debating between the forgotten foot and conversations in clave, have you had a chance to check horacios book and if you have which would you recommend.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2002, 09:36 AM » |
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the forgotten foot is tougher than nails...I've had it almost a year and I'm just starting to scratch at it.
havn't seen the hernandez one, but I will probably get it someday anyways.
The doug tann (F. Foot) thing has bi- linear, tri- linear and quad linear ostinato patterns as well that I seriously doubt the hernandez one has. wild stuff maynard.
Plus he sent me ALL THREE of his books for 10 bucks + shipping...now what is up with that?
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2002, 09:39 AM » |
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thanks felix, I think I'll pick both of them up at one point but If I pick up the forgotten first I doubt I'll get around to negros, lol.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2002, 11:28 AM » |
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My cover band suggested this and I cringed. But I was outvoted and we did it. After a while I began to love it. We modernized the verses with a kind of dancy hip-hopish feel. I did straight backbeat with offbeats on the hi-hats. Here's the trick with the solo section (the "dah dah de-dah" section as Felix calls it): If you have a solid bass player, let him/her take over the role of the drummer on this section. He'll repeat that phrase and the guitarist will do his thing (pay attention to the shifts in guitar). Then you can go insane with different Latin phrasings, polyrhythms, tom fills etc. Since that bass line is so solid, you and the rest of the band always know where the 1 is, so you can go way outside the 1 and turn your kit into a percussive arsenal. It took me a few live runthroughs to realize that I could trust the bassist as the time keeper. I think of the bassist in this song as the autopilot, and the guitarist as the navigational system. So listen, of course. That way you can execute all those wacky things you practice in your bedroom.  Just remember to hit those accents and communicate with the band visually. It's a hellava fun song! |
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2002, 11:39 AM » |
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That tune has a kind of "Cha Cha" or "Guajira" type of feel. You can approach it in many different ways. For instance, you can play quarter notes on the ChaCha bell or rimshot, eight notes on the hi hat, and bass drum on the & of 2 and in 4. Hope this helps! Saludos, Jorge Ginorio http://www.rhythmweb.com/jorge |
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2002, 11:41 AM » |
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I agree, It definetly has a guajira feel to it, good catch jorge.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2002, 12:32 PM » |
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Hi Drumlooney, hope all is well! I do own Horacio's book. Very nice stuff! I will call it the "Latin New Breed". Lot's of chalenging independence excercises. A must have! Saludos, Jorge Ginorio http://www.rhythmweb.com/jorge |
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2002, 12:58 PM » |
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Gracias Jorge, I should have knowned LOL. Hope all is well.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2002, 05:02 PM » |
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It's a cover of an old Fleetwood Mac tune. Mr. Fleetwood managed it without help.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2002, 01:38 AM » |
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I play it as Mick Fleetwood does also reasonably straight with a 1 e+a 2 + 3 + 4+ feel on top.
I let the guitarist blow out on this song and hold it all together with the beat which is most likely what Mr Shrieve was doing to hold all that extra percussion together( which you don't have so why try to do it anyway).
Do your own imaginative version.
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