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« on: June 09, 2006, 10:59 AM »

Hi.

I have been practicing for about 4 months. Up to tonight I have not had any lessions that included using the left foot to press the hi-hat. I have tried it before, and I did mention a while ago, that if I pressed down on the hi-hat and the bass drum at the same time, I find myself akwardly unbalanced on the throne - especially with both feet comming up from the beat (the off-beat I think).

Tonight, I actually encountered the first lesson, that instructed me to play on the hi hat(foot), on every beat of the bassdrum. I still am not comfortable, and I have to lean back just to try and balance myself. This happens when I play with both feet heels up. However, I found that if I play heel down on the hi-hat, I can use the heel on the floor to compensate for almost all the balance problems.

So my question is this: is it ok if I play with heel down on the hi-hat, or should I try harder to balance with heel up ?

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 11:09 AM »

It's best not to use your feet for balance - you should be balanced on your drum stool.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2006, 11:17 AM »

Experiment with it.... I do both the hat and bass pedal heel up. But go for what works best for YOU. You're going to find no set rule. It's about feel, balance, speed, and control. When you've got all that working you've found your answer. But Mr. A is right, your balance should be centered on your stool. All your limbs should be able to work independent. Using your limbs as "outriggers" will not help. You'll notice anyone who rides a bicycle that has limbs sticking out to balance themself are out of control. Your weight on one leg equals just about 1/3rd of your body weight. Now make a quick shift of that weight and the bike will wobble.  Same difference.... That shift of weight will affect your timing.   Wink
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2006, 11:28 AM »

Have you tried raising or lowering your seat?  Also, I've found that if I'm sitting too far back from my kit, my balance is thrown off.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2006, 12:52 PM »

Also, I've found that if I'm sitting too far back from my kit, my balance is thrown off.
This whole thread has me wondering something.

Back story: I don't currently have my drumset assembled, and until I do again, I've been practicing without a set. I've been practicing bass and hi-hat (heel-down) with my feet flat on the floor and with my foot extended outward from me far enough that my lower leg and thigh create an obtuse angle. At this distance, if I were to raise both feet, it seems like I would probably tip forward. The only way I see to solve this problem is to bring my feet back and make an acute angle with my upper and lower leg.

Am I sitting too far back from my "drumset"? What is the "proper" angle of the leg when sitting the "proper" distance from the set? (I'm sure there are differences of opinion on this topic, but is there a PROPER way to sit?)
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2006, 03:11 PM »

Here's what works for me.  I sit with my thighs parallel to the ground and my shins and feet are at about a 90 degree angle to my thighs.  I find this causes me to sit with my back straight and if I lean in any direction or lift my feet altogether, my center of gravity is on my seat and I don't lose my balance.

As usual this is what works for me, but it may be a good starting point for you to find your own balance.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2006, 06:46 PM »

I think Mr. A. made the best point yet. You should be balanced on your throne/seat. Your feet shouldn't be used to balance you.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2006, 02:42 AM »

Balance on the throne is the most crucial, for sure.  I tend to play heel down on HH, but heel up for BD.  Sometimes I will play heel up on HH, but only for louder passages, and sometimes heel down on BD, but for quieter, more sensitive parts.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2006, 03:58 PM »

What Mr. A said...

This made me chuckle a little - today I had some trouble with my balance because the ship I'm on is getting hit with some pretty large swells so I'm going one way, my gear is going another... It makes any complex foot work a real challenge - heck, I felt like the thread starter at times... Unfortunately there's nothing like "sea legs" for drummers...
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