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« on: July 19, 2006, 04:21 PM »

I've been periodically searching ebay for an assortment of different cymbals, but I'm worried about the quality of them (sound quality...I don't care about stick marks). Should I just get new ones or do used cymbals retain their sound through age?
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 04:41 PM »

i've had only good luck on ebay.  if the cymbal is in good condition, and it is of good pedigree, it's probably ok.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2006, 05:00 PM »

I've had good luck too. Be smart and read the feedback of the seller and avoid ALL private auctions. Communicate with the seller and ask questions if details are vague. I recently aquired some Paiste rude sound edge hats in great shape for about 1/4 of what they ask for new.So, good deals can be found. Good luck-I say go for it.   Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2006, 05:03 PM »

I got 2 cymbals on ebay, a 20" ZBT and a set of B8 hats. The ZBT was in great condition and for 30$, i cant complain about the logo on the top dissapearing from the polish the previous owner used. As for the hats, the were slightly bent... if they were crash cymbals, it would be a problem, but they were hats... so the 'chick' sound was less and you cant get the chiiiisssssssshhhh sound much when cymbals are partially open. Now i'm just using them as splash cymbals... lol
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 05:40 PM »

i've had only good luck on ebay.  if the cymbal is in good condition, and it is of good pedigree, it's probably ok.

Exactly. I bought all my Sabian hh cymbals on eBay. Just ask the seller a lot of questions before you buy - I do that even if I don't really have a question, just to see what kind of person I'm dealing with. If you're careful and smart, you can get GREAT cymbals for cheap on eBay.

Make sure the cymbal is in perfect structural condition before you bid - that's all you've gotta do.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2006, 06:38 PM »

I agree.  I've bought lots of cymbals on ebay the last few years, and almost all are still on my sets.  The ones I didn't like went back on ebay after a month or two.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2006, 06:52 PM »

I bought five cymbals on ebay in the past year. All were great sounding and in very good shape. I wouldn't part with any of them. All but one were Zildjian A custom and the sound match is really good. I don't think I'd spend the money on new ones any more. That one out of five was a new 22" Swish Knocker, Zildjian and I got it for a good price.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 06:58 PM »

The ones I didn't like went back on ebay after a month or two.

Yeah, I forgot to mention I've also sold several cymbals on eBay.

EBay's great if you know exactly what you want. If you don't, though, you're better off going to a music store where you can try the cymbals. THEN buy on eBay.

I know, everyone says try cymbals before you buy, but I wouldn't have been able to afford the cymbals I have now buying retail. For example, I got a PERFECT 18" Sabian hand hammered crash/ride for $75. Can't do that at a music store.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2006, 08:14 PM »

I have collected 30 something cymbals over the years-almost ALL vintage pAisTe.  Prob. 1/2 were acquired thru Ebay.  In fact, I just bought a pAisTe mid 70s 20" 2002 china-for $109 bones-SHIPPED. 

When it comes to Ebay-I will say you had better know what you are looking at prior to placing a bid.  I have nearly 600 transactions without being burned-and only a handful of minute disappointments!
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2006, 01:07 AM »

Ebay offers a distinct advantage if you do know what you're looking for.  If you do your research and don't overpay you should be able to get your money back by reselling it if the cymbal doesn't work out.

You can then try it with your other cymbals for a long enough time to decide how you like it.  I've found that often new cymbals, because they're so different from the ones they replaced, don't sound exactly "right" to my ears.  Often after a period of acclimation they sound great, or they may never sound good.  If it doesn't work I can sell it and at worst am only out the cost of shipping to me.  It's like renting it for two or three months cheap.  And if I got it at a really good price it's often free.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2006, 01:18 AM »

Ebay = Great for cymbals!!! specially if u know just what your lookin for
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2006, 11:10 AM »

I've bought used snares - but only new cymbals.

Good experience with all.

Having said that, it brings to mind something I was going to mention here at DC.

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I've seen more than a few eBay auctions end up with the buyer paying as much or so close to a price for the item new, that it really wasn't a deal. I've seen items that I was bidding on go above the "Buy It Now" price of the same item in another auction. Tsk-tsk. Smiley

I think anyone can get a bit 'heady' with the whole eBay experience and end up bidding just to have the emotional payoff at the end of having won.

I would recommend doing online/local research for any gear you are desiring, and then setting a total price for what you will pay (gotta watch that Shipping cost as well!). Otherwise you might as well come here to Drummer Cafe, hit the Musician's Friend link, and buy it for about the same price and help support Bart with what the Cafe gets from the transaction.


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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2006, 11:29 AM »

I'm at my second ebay cymbals bought, in fact I have just got my hand on Istanbul Mehmet hi-hat in good condition for 107$ usd, which will be here, I hope, next week.

Yet I haven't had any big trouble with eBay.
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2006, 11:52 AM »

I've bought used snares - but only new cymbals.

Good experience with all.

Having said that, it brings to mind something I was going to mention here at DC.

Hijack warning Wink

I've seen more than a few eBay auctions end up with the buyer paying as much or so close to a price for the item new, that it really wasn't a deal. I've seen items that I was bidding on go above the "Buy It Now" price of the same item in another auction. Tsk-tsk. Smiley

I think anyone can get a bit 'heady' with the whole eBay experience and end up bidding just to have the emotional payoff at the end of having won.

I would recommend doing online/local research for any gear you are desiring, and then setting a total price for what you will pay (gotta watch that Shipping cost as well!). Otherwise you might as well come here to Drummer Cafe, hit the Musician's Friend link, and buy it for about the same price and help support Bart with what the Cafe gets from the transaction.


FWIW, IMHO, etc.

Jim

I sold an 18" K Custom dark crash on evay once and had a buy it now price of $130, and it ended up being bid on up to $160! I was pleasantly surprised.

And to chime in on the main subject here, I have bought 5 cymbals on ebay that I could not have afforded new, and I have been more than happy. The best was an 18" Avedis medium crash with strong logos for $50.01.

I say go for it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2006, 10:58 PM »

All great advice so I won't repeat it all.  I've had great luck.  It's far cheaper than buying new.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2006, 01:01 PM »

Dont whatever you do deal with people that call them symbals or symbols or cymbols. People actually write symbols and expect us to treat them as respectable drum and cymbal retailers. You probably already figured that little diamonds bit of advice out.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2006, 01:28 PM »

Dont whatever you do deal with people that call them symbals or symbols or cymbols. People actually write symbols and expect us to treat them as respectable drum and cymbal retailers. You probably already figured that little diamonds bit of advice out.
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I disagree. 

Intentionally misspelling a keyword (like 'symbol' or 'cymbol') on your search is often a good way to find 'hidden buys' out there in eBay land.  Some sellers have quality goods to sell, but because they may not be drummers themselves, they mess up on the spelling.  Zildjian and Slingerland are often spelled incorrectly.  That doesn't necessarily mean the sellers are idiots.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2006, 01:30 PM »

Dont whatever you do deal with people that call them symbals or symbols or cymbols. People actually write symbols and expect us to treat them as respectable drum and cymbal retailers. You probably already figured that little diamonds bit of advice out.
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Generally good advice unless the seller doesn't realize what they have. Here's an example:
 
Old 22" Ziljian Symbol for sale! Looks really old to me, full of dings and divets. Has a stamp on it that I can barely make out that says K. Zildjian & Cie? Constantinople. Probably no good since not made in USA. Would probably make a good lid for a big skillet.
BUY IT NOW: $20

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2006, 02:08 PM »

Ah thats a point, but the majority of people that do spell it wrong are not trustworthy. I dont buy anything of anybody on ebay that doesnt know what specs to give. This is mainly with drum kits but cymbals can get that treatment as well.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2006, 02:50 PM »

Ah thats a point, but the majority of people that do spell it wrong are not trustworthy.

That's absolutely not true. You can easily determine an eBay seller's "trustworthiness" by looking at their feedback score.

What's wrong with a non-drummer selling drum equipment? If I wasn't a drummer I doubt I'd spell Zildjian right. Doesn't mean I'm untrustworthy!

FEEDBACK clearly shows you whether a seller is worthy of your trust. It's that simple, end of story. And when you find a great "symbal" for sale, there are less people bidding on it because of the misspelling. Perfect example - I got a great "Rodgers" snare drum for $40. Got it yesterday via UPS. If the guy had spelled Rogers right, it probably would have gone for over $100. I e-mailed the guy a few questions before I bid to make sure of the drum's condition, then snagged it cheap. He's happy, I'm happy.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2006, 02:52 PM »

. . . the majority of people that do spell it wrong are not trustworthy. . .

Interesting.  I had no idea.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2006, 03:08 PM »

I agree with Danno.
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2006, 03:10 PM »

I disagree. 

Intentionally misspelling a keyword (like 'symbol' or 'cymbol') on your search is often a good way to find 'hidden buys' out there in eBay land.  Some sellers have quality goods to sell, but because they may not be drummers themselves, they mess up on the spelling.  Zildjian and Slingerland are often spelled incorrectly.  That doesn't necessarily mean the sellers are idiots.
EXACTLY DAVE!!!!!!  I have scored in a major way a few times because of this!!!  Now Dave-dont give out anymore SECRETS about Ebay Grin
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2006, 03:14 PM »

Now Dave-dont give out anymore SECRETS about Ebay Grin

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2006, 06:21 AM »

I wholeheartedly take back everything i said. I saw a really nice sabian pro sonix 'symbol' for very cheap. Im just very very edgy of ebay still i guess, ive only bought 7 things so far so i still need to learn the ropes. I shall keep my crappy opinions to myself.
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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2006, 02:34 PM »

There's nothing wrong with being cautious, Jack. The feedback score is the only real indication of just who and what you're dealing with.
I've bought drums and cymbals and pedals and highhats,etc,etc...
I had one guy who used a picture of a cymbal that did'nt match what he sent.
He neither admitted nor denied what he sent was not the same article as pictured in his auction but, he had no hesitation to refund my money on reciept of his cymbal I sent back.
Reputation is everything to guys who make a living off Ebay.

I was dismayed to seehim just repost the same pic and cymbal again...another person might not have noticed. But I did.
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2006, 05:11 PM »

I wholeheartedly take back everything i said. I saw a really nice sabian pro sonix 'symbol' for very cheap. Im just very very edgy of ebay still i guess, ive only bought 7 things so far so i still need to learn the ropes. I shall keep my crappy opinions to myself.
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Your opinions aren't crappy. You should see all the dumb stuff I've posted on here in the last 2 years, it'd make you cringe.
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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2006, 08:21 PM »

I've had a great experience with used cymbals from eBay. I've gotten 3 cymbals from there:

1. Sabian 16" AA Thin Crash - Sounded great (similar to a Zildjian A but darker sounding), but I cracked it from hitting too hard and keeping the cymbal flat at the same time (I've since slightly changed both these habits).

2. Sabian 18" Pro Studio Crash - This is one of my current crash cymbals and it sounds good. It sounds like a Zildjian A Custom but heavier and slightly brighter. It's very loud, and I love it.

3. Paiste 16" Dimensions Power Crash - This is my other current crash cymbal, and it's even brighter. It sounds more like a very bright Zildjian A (not A Custom) cymbal. It also looks nice. It had one teeny tiny miniscule chip in the edge of one side of it. Other than that, it's perfect. It has shiny scale-like imprints on it.

I got the first one for Christmas about 2.5 years ago, so I don't know the price my parents got it for. However, I do know that all of these were worth over $100, and I know that I got the 2nd and 3rd for under $100, so that's a great deal. They're in great shape, too, and they sound great. As long as you're careful and get one from a person with a high feedback rate that says it's not cracked or damaged in any way (pictures also help), you can get some GREAT deals off of eBay in terms of cymbals (and other things, I'm sure, but we're talking about cymbals here).
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2006, 10:14 PM »

I have gotten most of my cymbals off of ebay which include 4 ride/hi hats/5 crashes/ and 2 black panther snares/ dw pedals... and more!! Many of these i actually bought brand new off of ebay because of the amazing prices.. Feedback is the key and ask as many questions as you can before bidding!!
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2006, 04:29 AM »

Ive bought about 5 cymbals off ebay, but they were from drum shops that have chosen to go into ebay as well and they were all new. I'm not using ebay to get my new drum kit though. I was going to untill i found an ex demo mapex vx in aqua marine colour (exactly the kit i want even down to colour) for £325 (about $580) so im really glad i spent such a long time looking around for kits and looking through drum shops because it ended in what should be the perfect deal (fingers crossed).
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