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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2006, 11:56 PM »

I can only do 16th paradiddles at around 150. My drum teacher says my technique is good. Who should I believe here? Cry Undecided

Depends what you're trying to do. If you're trying to play a Gadd lick, you'd probably need to be able to do those paradiddles at about 240+. Gadd plays a lot of his 32nd-note licks at 120 to 124. If you're just trying to work on dexterity and don't care about stealing Gadd's stuff, you're doing fine.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2006, 01:17 AM »

and it depends on how long you've been playing, paradiddles at 150bpm is pretty quick if you've only been at it for a couple of years......you have to understand that some of us have been playing for a long, long time.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2006, 12:22 PM »

and it depends on how long you've been playing, paradiddles at 150bpm is pretty quick if you've only been at it for a couple of years......you have to understand that some of us have been playing for a long, long time.

I'll have been playing 5 years in November (or somewhere around there, can't remember EXACTLY when I started).
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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2006, 01:10 PM »

and for 5 years that still is not too shaby.....really who cares where you're at on the metronome, like we have all mentioned, is it fast enough for the music that you play? I know for the stuff I do with my band it would be....I can play faster but at this stage I don't really care what the metronome says.
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2006, 01:22 PM »

and for 5 years that still is not too shaby.....really who cares where you're at on the metronome, like we have all mentioned, is it fast enough for the music that you play? I know for the stuff I do with my band it would be....I can play faster but at this stage I don't really care what the metronome says.

Yeah, I'm into Mike Portnoy a lot. Luckily, I'm not one of those young people that you talked about who skipped the basics (keeping time, for example) before I took a dive into his complicated music. My single strokes are much faster than any other thing (doubles, triples, quads, paradiddles, etc.) that I do. But that's what the style I like to play involves. It doesn't utilize much more in terms of fills than singles.
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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2006, 02:16 PM »

well X I think that you are in the same boat as most of us...my singles and doubles are way faster than my paradiddles or anyother rudiment, its just going to be that way and I accept it.

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« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2006, 11:13 AM »

Depends what you're trying to do. If you're trying to play a Gadd lick, you'd probably need to be able to do those paradiddles at about 240+. Gadd plays a lot of his 32nd-note licks at 120 to 124. If you're just trying to work on dexterity and don't care about stealing Gadd's stuff, you're doing fine.

In my book, if you're doing 16th note paradiddles at 150 bpm that's pretty good, though 200 would be better. As far as Gadd goes, do the math and 4 x 240 = 960 beats per minute, which is faster than I can do a single stroke, a pretty high expectation for a paradiddle.

Bottom line is you should be able to match paradiddle speed to your single stroke so you can shift the stroking smoothly between the two as you play rolls. Same with your double stroke and other rudiments ... you want to be able to freely combine them (at will) in different ways to create the sounds in your head. Eventually you won't really know what your hands are doing, they'll just be doing it.

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« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2006, 03:26 PM »

In my book, if you're doing 16th note paradiddles at 150 bpm that's pretty good, though 200 would be better. As far as Gadd goes, do the math and 4 x 240 = 960 beats per minute, which is faster than I can do a single stroke, a pretty high expectation for a paradiddle.

Bottom line is you should be able to match paradiddle speed to your single stroke so you can shift the stroking smoothly between the two as you play rolls. Same with your double stroke and other rudiments ... you want to be able to freely combine them (at will) in different ways to create the sounds in your head. Eventually you won't really know what your hands are doing, they'll just be doing it.

When you get to the point of healthy command of stick rebound, paraddidles and all the variations are so much easier to play than single strokes. I can probably play paradiddlediddles twice as fast as I can play single-stroke sextuplets.
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« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2006, 07:11 PM »

When you get to the point of healthy command of stick rebound, paraddidles and all the variations are so much easier to play than single strokes. I can probably play paradiddlediddles twice as fast as I can play single-stroke sextuplets.

I don't use rebound much, but if I could play paradiddles twice as fast as my single stroke, I'd be the fastest guy in the world. Guess I'd have to see it to believe it.
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