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« on: August 28, 2006, 03:43 PM » |
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Guys, anybody know who this drummer is?
http://www.youtube.com/v/ObVxM-KOZKoI absolutely love his playing on this track, talk about balls to the wall drumming. Great band Neil had then it seems. If you can recommend some work of his, that'd be great too. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2006, 03:58 PM » |
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Guys, anybody know who this drummer is?
http://www.youtube.com/v/ObVxM-KOZKoI absolutely love his playing on this track, talk about balls to the wall drumming. Great band Neil had then it seems. If you can recommend some work of his, that'd be great too. Thanks. Looks like Steve Jordan.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2006, 04:01 PM » |
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Definitely Steve Jordan.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2006, 04:16 PM » |
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Oh god, thats hot. I love that song, and that has to be one of the best versions of it i've ever heard. Was Jordan the one who played on the recording? Either way Jordan is one of the best drummers alive and totally underrated by kids my age.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2006, 05:08 PM » |
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Thanks for the heads up guys. So he's THE Steve Jordan... I've got homework then. No wonder everyone loves him, he's a monster, you can't hit that hard and with such style and not be praised.
Any fave records featuring him? I'm sure some Keith Richard's features him...
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2006, 05:17 PM » |
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I don't even think of him as a hard hitter hes just solid and practical, no one plays grooves like steve jordan, he can take a 2 and 4 and make it feel better than anyone. You NEED to get his DVD "the groove is here", its like 20 something dollars and it is one of the best dvd's out. It features him playing many grooves and talking about his oppinions on grooving but he also brings famous musicians in to voice their oppinions on what they look for in a drummer. He puts out alot of information that will make you think more about being a musician than just a drummer. Steve is in the John Mayer trio right now with Pino Palladino on bass and its incredible go pick up their live album try, steves groove for their cover of "i got a woman" by ray charles killer.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2006, 05:50 PM » |
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Steve Jordan was great in "Hail Hail Rock n Roll" with Chuck Berry...A very solid drummer...
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2006, 06:32 PM » |
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Steve rules, and is a big influence on how I play - even how I set up my kit.
He's great on everything I've ever heard him on. My faves include the live Blues Brothers album Made in America, and Amanda Marshall's Tuesday's Child.
And for those who diss hard hitting, I'm sorry, but you just can't get THAT sound and feel without hitting hard. It's a beautiful thing.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2006, 06:45 PM » |
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Steve rules, and is a big influence on how I play - ...
He's great on everything I've ever heard him on. My faves include the live Blues Brothers album Made in America ...
I first heard Jordan on the Briefcase Full of Blues album. I was just starting out as a drummer. It definitely had an effect on me! MD had a good article on him a few months back.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2006, 07:46 PM » |
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Not to in any way denigrate his current "groove over all else" philosophy (which he realizes oh so well in so many different contexts these days), but just for the sake of variety: if you want to hear another side of Steve's playing, to hear him stretch out a little more (while still grooving!), check out some of his earlier recordings such as: - Don Grolnick - Hearts and Numbers (out of print - grab it if you can find it) - Blue Montreux, which I believe is listed as a Brecker Brothers album, but it also has Mike Mainieri, Tony Levin, and IIRC Warren Bernhardt. Originally released as two different LPs, but later compiled onto a single CD, leaving a few tracks off (unfortunately). - Steve Khan - Eyewitness+1, BTW, on the recommendation of "The Groove Is Here." Mandatory viewing, IMO. EDIT: I just downloaded the clip in question. Oh, yeah - good stuff. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2006, 08:39 PM » |
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Thanks for the recommendations. I was checking his Allmusic.com credits and there's a huge list of records he's been on. Thanks again for the tips.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2006, 10:14 AM » |
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Check out John Scofield's Who's Who. It's more of the 70s fusion James was talking about and one of my personal favs.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2006, 10:36 AM » |
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Mr. A I have no problem hitting hard, i grew up listening to punk, I just get sick of ppl who treat playing hard like a religion; like it works in all situations. Mr. A I'm sure you can play like a monster but I know that if you were asked to make your left hand almost whisper quiet well playing some tight fusion work you wouldn't have a problem.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2006, 12:36 PM » |
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I just get sick of ppl who treat playing hard like a religion; like it works in all situations. I don't think that was being argued. Mr A simply put: "you just can't get THAT sound and feel without hitting hard" That sound and feel. I agree 100%. Kenny Aronoff has the same attributes, as does Josh Freese I'm told. If you want to sound like Joey Waronker or James Gadson with Beck, play whisper soft. No one is arguing with that. Steve Jordan plays confidently, both loud and soft on his DVD, which you rightly recommend.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2006, 01:58 PM » |
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I've just been watching the estimable Mr Jordan with the John Mayer Trio (with the equally estimable Pino Palladino on bass), from a broadcast recorded at the Bowery Ballroom in November last year. Just wonderful.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2006, 01:15 PM » |
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funny, but charley drayton's playing bass, and honestly, i'd rather have him playing behind young. only cause charley has equally kickin' feel, but doesnt tune his snare nearly as high nor as piccolo like, which just doesnt seem to fit neil's "sound", IMHO.
FYI, look for keith richard's "x-pensive winos" live in concert on DVD. both steve and charley rip it up on both the kit and bass.
and what the hell? does neil really need 30 amps in studio 8H?
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2006, 01:42 PM » |
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I agree 100%. Kenny Aronoff has the same attributes, as does Josh Freese I'm told. Steve Jordan plays confidently, both loud and soft on his DVD, which you rightly recommend.
One of my favorite of the "hard hitters" is Abe Laboriel Jr. He reminds me a lot of Bonzo sometimes, especially in his setup. (Chris--hope there's no bad blood between you and Abe considering he has the Paul McCartney gig.  I don't think he got that gig until you were about 10 years from it anyway... By the way, Sir McCartney is my all-time top #1 hero/idol/musical influence and the fact that I am in some very miniscule way one degree of separation from him nearly gives me the vapors everytime I think about it.)
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2006, 09:38 AM » |
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Chris--hope there's no bad blood between you and Abe considering he has the Paul McCartney gig. Why would there be? I left of my own accord anyway. IMO, Abe is the best drummer Macca has had since Ringo (myself excluded  ). I prefer Steve Jordan as a drummer though.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2006, 01:44 PM » |
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I dont want to hi-jack the thread here turning it into a discussion of hard hitting only but i play pretty hard myself. Im in a ten piece horn band and if im not playing pretty intense ALL the time you can hear how naked the band is without it. I almost feel like the band has no REAL energy itself unless i inject it, im sometimes ticked that its this way.
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