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« on: November 10, 2002, 09:31 AM » |
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Anybody who know any great cd`s whith great drummers?  |
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2002, 09:56 AM » |
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sure, plenty ... do you want just metal? or pop/rock, world beat, trad jazz, out jazz, free improv, avant garde, insert genre here, etc. and to me great drumming isnt necessarily stand out drumming. great drumming can be that if your listening, but it has to work with the band/music.
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igor cavallera from sepultura is one of my fav metal drummers. roots is probably my favorite album of thiers, chaos AD a close second.
another is away (michel langevin) in voivod. dimension hatross is a great album if youre ok with the singer. other wise negatron and phobos would be good (different singer, heavier albums)
i kinda hate to say it, but joey jordison from slipknot is awesome, as is thier album iowa. ive come to really love that album.
let me know if you want more, or more genres.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2002, 09:03 AM » |
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sure, plenty ... do you want just metal? or pop/rock, world beat, trad jazz, out jazz, free improv, avant garde, insert genre here, etc. and to me great drumming isnt necessarily stand out drumming. great drumming can be that if your listening, but it has to work with the band/music.
metal:
igor cavallera from sepultura is one of my fav metal drummers. roots is probably my favorite album of thiers, chaos AD a close second.
another is away (michel langevin) in voivod. dimension hatross is a great album if youre ok with the singer. other wise negatron and phobos would be good (different singer, heavier albums)
i kinda hate to say it, but joey jordison from slipknot is awesome, as is thier album iowa. ive come to really love that album.
let me know if you want more, or more genres.
Hello! I also like Joey Jordison. Great drummer. Igor Cavalera to..but i have`nt listen to Voivod. So i think i had to. Thanks |
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2002, 09:26 AM » |
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Check out "Inner Mounting Flame" by Mahavishnu Orchestra. Intense music and drums (provided by Billy Cobham).
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2002, 12:03 PM » |
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funny you should mention mahavishnu. this friend of mines a turntablist (not a dj, theres a difference) as well as drummer. at one of his shows he had this cobham intro bit looping with some napalm death riffs pitched down. together it was easily the heaviest music i had ever heard. that cobham riff was lethal i wish i could remember which it was.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2002, 12:09 PM » |
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Yeah, the first two Mahavishnu albums and the first two solo Cobham albums are really good. Oddly enough, I never liked the sound of his snare drum, but, that's being at least slightly picky. Lots of natural "bursts" provided by the music, I think mostly penned by John McLaughlin and probably Jan Hammer.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2002, 12:15 PM » |
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Jeez, what was I thinking? In addition to the above, for outrageous drums, check out Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Visions of the Emerald Beyond" with Narada Michael Walden on drums. He is a true "storm".
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2002, 01:27 PM » |
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sure, plenty ... do you want just metal? or pop/rock, world beat, trad jazz, out jazz, free improv, avant garde, insert genre here, etc. and to me great drumming isnt necessarily stand out drumming. great drumming can be that if your listening, but it has to work with the band/music.
metal:
igor cavallera from sepultura is one of my fav metal drummers. roots is probably my favorite album of thiers, chaos AD a close second.
another is away (michel langevin) in voivod. dimension hatross is a great album if youre ok with the singer. other wise negatron and phobos would be good (different singer, heavier albums)
i kinda hate to say it, but joey jordison from slipknot is awesome, as is thier album iowa. ive come to really love that album.
let me know if you want more, or more genres.
Hello! I also like Joey Jordison. Great drummer. Igor Cavalera to..but i have`nt listen to Voivod. So i think i had to. Thanks I`m also searching for great Jazz and World music drummers. I wanna experience all kind of music. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2002, 03:55 PM » |
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I've been doing my best to evangelize Pat Mastelotto's drumming on the most recent King Crimson album. Just such an amazing approach. |
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2002, 03:58 PM » |
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He also played great with the Rembrandts, and with Mister Mister - tremendous drummer! |
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2002, 04:18 PM » |
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Yeah, but Crimson's the kind of band that lets these guys play with almost no restraint. It's like the difference between seeing how a Mustang handles at 45 vs the way it handles at 110.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2002, 04:50 PM » |
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lessee ... jazz/fusion - jeff hamilton, elvin jones, rashied ali, art blakey, tony williams, billy cobham, tony oxley, gerry hemmingway, famadou don moye world - talvin singh, karsh kale, trilok gurtu, zakir hussain (sorry, mostly middle eastern bent, thats my forte) avant garde - steve reich, harry partch, benedict bonniger that should keep you busy for a while  |
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2002, 05:08 PM » |
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Mark, since you listen to a pretty diverse kind of music, check out Dillenger Escape Plan, I think some people labeled them math-core once. Its heavy and hard, but drums-wise pretty impressive. Odd timing all over the place.
If you are gonna give it a try, I suggest their latest EP (with Mike Patton on vocals), called "Irony is a Dead Scene"
my favorite of that EP - Rock Paper Scissors
some other DEP stuff: Weekend Sex Change (instrumental)
and their classic: 43% Burnt
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2002, 08:05 PM » |
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carn, thanks for the tip, already a fan and that reminds me of another one for ya metal maniac, MESSHUGAH. first time i heard those guys i was floored. like kingslayercrimson. brutal utter madness. |
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2002, 09:54 PM » |
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Hey pdangelo, sounds like you and I have a lot of the early '70's stuff in common, although when it comes to Mahavishnu Orchestra, I prefer "Birds of Fire" over "Inner Mounting Flame". I also really like Waldon on "Visions of the Emerald Beyond" except of those "funky" songs he wrote -- I usually skip them.
Speaking of Narada Michael Waldon (which we were) There is some excellent material both written and played by him on Jeff Beck's "Wired" album -- I especially like "Sophie".
Staying in the WayBack machine, does anyone remember Alphonse Mouson? Give a listen to him on "Back Together Again" with Larry Coryell.
Hey MetalManiac, I suppose it goes without saying that you are familiar with Tool? I just saw them a couple of months ago and Danny is a very impessive drummer. It's not a matter of power or speed, it's those complex patterns that he plays. Listen to "Lateralus" and tell me you can catch (and repeat) all of those patterns the first time! And then offer to sell me a bridge!
Lots of folks at the Cafe mention Joey in Slipknot but the drummer in Fear Factory holds his own in the death metal arena -- I think his name is Raymond Herrera.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2002, 11:38 PM » |
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funny raymond herrara story (just what i read somewhere) apparently dave lombardo recommended him to the slayer gang when they needed paul replaced. so they had him out to audition and whatnot. and afterward they were thinking "hey, hes got the moves, but be worth persuing" but raymond turned it down because his mother didnt want him playing in a satanic band. just kinda funny side note there.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2002, 07:23 AM » |
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yeah, and Kerry King didnt like his style because herrera is someone who plays more double bass then anything else, following the guitar whenever he can.
But I think his best drumming is on Fear Factory's last album, Digimortal.
Lately I've been listening to Steps Ahead a lot...who might know on which CDs Steve Gadd played? Im interested in those few.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2002, 08:06 AM » |
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Lately I've been listening to Steps Ahead a lot...who might know on which CDs Steve Gadd played? Im interested in those few.
Steve played on: Smokin' In The Pit - IMHO Steps/Steps Ahead's best album Step By Step - recorded "in studio" in Japan Smokin' In The Pit, a live recording in Japan, came out on CD a few years ago, with some bonus tracks not available on the original LP. Step By Step has been released in the US as part of a two-CD set along with a live recording, "Paradox," which features Peter Erskine on drums. Both are well worth having. More info at http://www.nycrecords.com (Mike Mainieri's label). If you find the first U.S. "Steps Ahead" album on CD, buy it - it's out of print now, which is a crime... If you like the early Steps recordings, you should also check out the Blue Montreux recordings, with Mike Mainieri, the Brecker Brothers, Warren Bernhardt, Tony Levin, and Steve Jordan. More great stuff. The few times I've seen in record stores, it has been stocked under the Brecker Brothers' name (or Randy's bin, or Michael's bin), but if you find it, pick it up - Jordan plays his arse off. |
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2002, 11:13 AM » |
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Thanks alot James, Im gonna check if I can get my hands on that Smoking in the Pit cd |
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